Marner

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Créé par: sobrien6187

Équipe: 2023-24 Flyers de Philadelphie

Date de création initiale: 19 janv. 2024

Publié: 19 janv. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Feeling out Marner value with TML fans. Flyers are a wagon and TML is crumbling at the worst time. Nylander is re-signed and Marner is going to be looking for more than TML can afford, and the 4 pillars and a pile of crap roster plan hasn't worked yet.

This alleviates TMLs Cap situation (and some additional moves to help the Flyers new Cap issues) and provides them some young, affordable skill to work with, and high picks to rebuild their barren asset pool.

(Half of what I said was meant to trigger some if you come at me with some spice, go touch some snow)

Transactions

PHI

Marner, Mitchell

TOR

Brink, Bobby
Frost, Morgan
York, Cam
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (FLA)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (ANA)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (PHI)

PHI

Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (NYR)

NYR

Staal, Marc

PHI

Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (TOR)

MIN

Walker, Sean

Rachats de contrats

Anthony Deangelo: 1 666 667 $
Oskar Lindblom: 666 667 $
Ilya Bryzgalov: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Kevin Hayes: 3 571 428 $ (50%)

Enfoui

Cal Petersen: 3 850 000 $ (5 000 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	83 500 000 $	88 184 262 $	1 187 500 $	32 500 $	-4 684 262 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Marner, Mitchell 10 903 000 $10 903 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 2	Couturier, Sean 7 750 000 $7 750 000 $ C NMC UFA - 7	Konecny, Travis 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Farabee, Joel 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 5	Cates, Noah 2 625 000 $2 625 000 $ C, AG RFA - 2	Tippett, Owen 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Atkinson, Cam 5 875 000 $5 875 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Laughton, Scott 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ C, AG UFA - 3	Foerster, Tyson 863 333 $863 333 $ AD RFA - 2
Deslauriers, Nicolas 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 3	Poehling, Ryan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Hathaway, Garnet 2 375 000 $2 375 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Lycksell, Olle 787 500 $787 500 $ AD RFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Sanheim, Travis 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ DG/DD NTC UFA - 8	Drysdale, Jamie 2 300 000 $2 300 000 $ DD RFA - 3	Hart, Carter 3 979 000 $3 979 000 $ G RFA - 1
Seeler, Nick 775 000 $775 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Ristolainen, Rasmus 5 100 000 $5 100 000 $ DD UFA - 4	Ersson, Samuel 859 167 $859 167 $ (32 500 $$32K) G RFA - 1
Zamula, Yegor 775 000 $775 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 1	Attard, Ronnie 850 000 $850 000 $ DD RFA - 2
Mete, Victor 775 000 $775 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Ellis, Ryan 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ DD UFA - 4

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Marner, M.		Couturier, S.		Konecny, T.
	Tippett, O.		Drysdale, J.

Avantage numérique 2
Atkinson, C.		Cates, N.		Farabee, J.
	Foerster, T.		Zamula, Y.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Laughton, S.	Konecny, T.
	Seeler, N.	Ristolainen, R.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Couturier, S.	Cates, N.
	Sanheim, T.	Attard, R.

19 janv. à 16 h 1

Random2152

Just Keep Swimming

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Marner in a down year is a top 10 winger in the league.
You're not even close to offering a package that would align with Toronto's goals

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19 janv. à 16 h 4

NYR1983

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Leaf fans will either take it and run or want double.. depends on who responds

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19 janv. à 16 h 6

sobrien6187

Démarrer sujet

Rejoint: juill. 2021

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Quoting: Random2152

Marner in a down year is a top 10 winger in the league.
You're not even close to offering a package that would align with Toronto's goals

So what more would it take?

19 janv. à 16 h 12

Random2152

Just Keep Swimming

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Quoting: sobrien6187

So what more would it take?

Its not even really a value issue (although your pick add-ons are insulting tbf). Its a fit issue.
The Leafs are trying to win right now and in the next 4 years. Very little in this package helps us do that - and certainly not to Marner's level

A Marner Deal starts with TK and goes up from there significantly.
Frankly I don't think Philly has the needed assets

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19 janv. à 16 h 15

SomeonesOffended

FKA Bigtittielarper

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Marner ain’t waiving

19 janv. à 16 h 57

MANX

Rejoint: août 2020

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Quoting: Random2152

Marner in a down year is a top 10 winger in the league.
You're not even close to offering a package that would align with Toronto's goals

Complete overpay for the Flyers. How a Flyers fan came up with this trade is mind boggling. Yes hes a top winger, but right there hes a winger not a center or a dman. Keep all of those assets and the Flyers are better off. Besides the fact that Marner is a NO SHOW in the playoffs on a deal that expires next year.

19 janv. à 16 h 59

MANX

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Quoting: SomeonesOffended

Marner ain’t waiving

Good...we dont want him..........

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19 janv. à 17 h 11

DH28Hockey

Rejoint: mai 2019

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Marner would probably be TK + Hart as the return package

19 janv. à 17 h 39

NickOT74

Kapri-sun

Rejoint: sept. 2020

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This trade makes no sense for the flyers, you can argue all you want about if that’s enough for marner, that’s not the problem

Problem is trading 3 roster players and a significant amount of draft capital for 1 player, this doesn’t push the flyers over the edge, it probably makes them worse, especially by trading York, while they are doing very good, a. They are still rebuilding and are not trading futures and b. A lot of that is because of the players in this deal

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20 janv. à 12 h 28

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PhilEMyers

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Flyers pass easily

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MIN

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