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Selling While Also Going All In

Créé par: la_scaloneta
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 12 janv. 2024
Publié: 12 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
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PIT
  1. Lafrenière, Alexis
  2. Miller, K'Andre
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
I would target Lafreniere because Pittsburgh needs a Hornqvist type of player who is a forechecking menace and net-front presence - I believe playing with Sid can take his game up a new level

Miller would do well away from Trouba and alongside Letang
NYR
  1. Guentzel, Jake
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Torts would love to have Acciari on his team
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PIT
  1. Johansen, Ryan
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
Colorado gives a 3rd for 50% attention on Smith from a third party

Johansen is a cap dump but he could be a Bonino-type player for Pittsburgh (good hands, playmaking, elusive player in transition and can be trusted to win puck battles)
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PIT
  1. Poehling, Ryan
Détails additionnels:
Poehling could be a poor man’s Hagelin for us with his blazing speed, transition ability and forechecking
PHI
  1. Acciari, Noel
Détails additionnels:
Acciari would be a favorite if Torts
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PIT
  1. Marner, Mitchell
  2. Samsonov, Ilya
Détails additionnels:
Marner has a lot of similarities to Conor Sheary, I believe a line with him, Crosby and Lafreniere could be a better version of the 2016 playoffs first line

Samsonov is the worst goalie in the league but I believe a change of scenery could be good for him, as his struggles are psychological vs physical
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TBL
    Waivers - he could be our version of Ben Lovejoy
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    12 janv. à 20 h 9
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    there is not a single thing in that trade that the leafs would want in return for marner.
    12 janv. à 20 h 10
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    The Marner trade is beyond hideous.

    Marner has a NMC. Carter has a NMC.

    Leafs are getting fleeced hard.
    12 janv. à 20 h 11
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    How many drinks would you have to force down the throats of Drury and Treliving to even consider these trades
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    12 janv. à 20 h 14
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    Quoting: SharkTank
    The Marner trade is beyond hideous.

    Marner has a NMC. Carter has a NMC.

    Leafs are getting fleeced hard.


    Tbh I think Carter would be happy to return to Toronto and retire.
    12 janv. à 20 h 15
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    there is not a single thing in that trade that the leafs would want in return for marner.


    Well Carter for Samsonov is essentially cap dump for dump.

    Graves would be good for Toronto because they need defencemen, and Jarry is a top goalie.
    12 janv. à 20 h 15
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    Quoting: johum7
    How many drinks would you have to force down the throats of Drury and Treliving to even consider these trades


    The Guentzel trade is not my idea, it was suggested by a friend.

    Same with the Marner trade.
    12 janv. à 20 h 17
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    Sabres decline imo
    We might take a pick for Bryson though
    12 janv. à 20 h 17
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    Quoting: AntiAnalytics
    Sabres decline imo
    We might take a pick for Bryson though


    Isn’t he a cap dump?
    12 janv. à 20 h 18
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    Quoting: la_scaloneta
    Well Carter for Samsonov is essentially cap dump for dump.

    Graves would be good for Toronto because they need defencemen, and Jarry is a top goalie.


    and the leafs are getting the more expensive cap dump, Graves is not very good and his contract is pretty bad and Jarry is not nearly good enough, cheap enough or young enough to even start a Marner conversation.
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    12 janv. à 20 h 18
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    Quoting: la_scaloneta
    Isn’t he a cap dump?


    We have PLENTY of Cap Room & don’t need to “dump” him
    12 janv. à 20 h 18
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    and the leafs are getting the more expensive cap dump, Graves is not very good and his contract is pretty bad and Jarry is not nearly good enough, cheap enough or young enough to even start a Marner conversation.


    Well, Graves led the NHL in plus minus twice in the last 4 seasons no? Seems he is pretty good.
    12 janv. à 20 h 19
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    Quoting: AntiAnalytics
    We have PLENTY of Cap Room & don’t need to “dump” him


    Fair enough but maybe Shea would be good for you guys.
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    12 janv. à 20 h 19
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    Quoting: la_scaloneta
    Tbh I think Carter would be happy to return to Toronto and retire.


    Let's ignore Carter himself saying repeatedly "I'm tired of moving my family. I'm not waiving my NMC."

    But I guess he's going to Toronto because you say so. 🙄
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    12 janv. à 20 h 20
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    Quoting: la_scaloneta
    Well, Graves led the NHL in plus minus twice in the last 4 seasons no? Seems he is pretty good.


    if you're using +/- you might as well tell people he lead the league in counting his toes, it means the exact same thing in respect to his actual abilities.
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    12 janv. à 20 h 21
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    Quoting: SharkTank
    Let's ignore Carter himself saying repeatedly "I'm tired of moving my family. I'm not waiving my NMC."

    But I guess he's going to Toronto because you say so. 🙄


    Did he say that? I don’t recall.
    12 janv. à 20 h 21
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    if you're using +/- you might as well tell people he lead the league in counting his toes, it means the exact same thing in respect to his actual abilities.


    Well to do it twice it must mean something.
    12 janv. à 20 h 21
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    Quoting: la_scaloneta
    Did he say that? I don’t recall.


    Who is this? Oliver North?
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    12 janv. à 20 h 24
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    Quoting: la_scaloneta
    Well to do it twice it must mean something.


    does counting his toes the most twice mean something?
    12 janv. à 20 h 24
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    Lmao another day another lame post of you wanting Laffy so bad

    Give it a break already. Rangers easily pass
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    12 janv. à 20 h 25
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    Quoting: la_scaloneta
    Fair enough but maybe Shea would be good for you guys.


    Nope, not interested even a little
    We don’t need a 3rd pair LD, which is why i previously said,
    “We might take a pick”

    Otherwise, we are happy with the depth he provides in Rochester for us
    12 janv. à 20 h 27
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    Quoting: SharkTank
    Who is this? Oliver North?


    How old are you that you’re making that reference??
    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    I had to look up who the hell that was! 🤣🤣🤣
    12 janv. à 20 h 30
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    How old are you that you’re making that reference??
    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    I had to look up who the hell that was! 🤣🤣🤣


    I remember as a kid I was in swimming lessons. I came home and the Iran Contra hearings were on. 😁

    Ollie North became my hero. Whenever I got in trouble at school I just kept saying "I don't recall."
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    12 janv. à 20 h 36
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    Quoting: la_scaloneta
    Well to do it twice it must mean something.


    it means he played on a good offensive team and his goalie made a lot of saves when he was on the ice. that's it. nothing more

    Connor McDavid has multiple seasons with a +/- below 0

    +/- is *literally* as useless as GAA when it comes to assessing value
    12 janv. à 20 h 45
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    Modifié 12 janv. à 20 h 50
    Oh boy… Where do I begin..?

    Rangers easily decline. You’re not getting Laf, that’s a simple fact.

    Avs would maybe accept only if they win the Elias Lindholm sweepstakes at TDL.

    Pens decline Philly. First of all, WHY WOULD TWO RIVALS TRADE WITH EACHOTHER? Second, PIT SENT POEHLING TO FREE AGENCY, WHY WOULD THEY WANT HIM BACK? Dude sucked with us and was injured alot. Absolutely no reason why Pens would want him back.

    Sabres decline. They’ll give you Bryson for a draft pick, not for Shea.

    The Toronto trade… oh boy. The only part of that trade that makes only a minuscule amount of sense is Carter for Samsonov (as it’s basically a cap dump for a cap dump), and even then Carter can easily be like “I’ll just use my NMC lol. I ain’t going there!” If you genuinely think that’ll net you Marner, then Treliving will block your number.

    Waivers with TBL is just a waiver scenario. Not sure how good he is or how well he’d work with the team, so I can’t really say much there.

    That Toronto trade though…
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    12 janv. à 20 h 46
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    Rangers wouldn’t trade one of miller or laf let alone both AND 1st rd for Jake, or any rental. It could be McDavid and they wouldn’t do it

    This is quite possibly the worst trade offer I’ve ever seen, congrats you’ve done it 😂
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