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The current bottom 6 is unacceptable

Créé par: Brad_Treliving
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 12 janv. 2024
Publié: 12 janv. 2024
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I can't see the Leafs winning a playoff series while deploying all of Robertson, Holmberg, Gregor, Jarnkrok, and McMann. No fear, intimidation, or forechecking from these players

Leafs also need to upgrade on Brodie, Gio, and possibly Liljegren
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12 janv. à 12 h 10
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Quoting: RipNasty
The Hawks are really thin on RD. End of statement. Jones is the worst contract in the game. Murphy is only good because he's the best defensive defenceman on a team that has none. Including Murphy who isn't very good.


Huberdeau (you know the guy that put up 55 points last season, is on pace for 45 this year and is owed 10.5 per for 7 more years) says hello. Jones is overpaid 1-2 million which if the cap goes up significantly as projected the next couple of Summers won't mean much as new contracts for as much or more become the norm. RHD that can eat 25 minutes a game have value. Jones at 8 million per is a player/contract most of teams in the league would love to have. Jones and Murphy are far from the best top pairing or middle pair RHD respectively in the league, but they are far from the worst even if Jones is a bit overpaid. In fairness to both, no RHD is going to look good with a team built to contend for winning the lottery where the best LHD last season was McCabe (for 3/4ers of the year) and this season is a revolving door of kids under 22 or in the case of Korchinski still a teenager.

You personally don't want Murphy....I get it. If you don't think adding Murphy as opposed to rolling Brodie, McCabe, and Liljegren with Benoit playing 18 minutes a night as a bandaid 2nd pairing wouldn't help, I don't know what to tell you other than good luck with that D core in the playoffs and you better hope the Leafs find someone. Murphy (or someone) slides McCabe back to strengthen the LHD and slide Benoit down the lineup to the 14-15 minutes he should be playing.
12 janv. à 12 h 15
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Quoting: wojohawk
Huberdeau (you know the guy that put up 55 points last season, is on pace for 45 this year and is owed 10.5 per for 7 more years) says hello. Jones is overpaid 1-2 million which if the cap goes up significantly as projected the next couple of Summers won't mean much as new contracts for as much or more become the norm. RHD that can eat 25 minutes a game have value. Jones at 8 million per is a player/contract most of teams in the league would love to have. Jones and Murphy are far from the best top pairing or middle pair RHD respectively in the league, but they are far from the worst even if Jones is a bit overpaid. In fairness to both, no RHD is going to look good with a team built to contend for winning the lottery where the best LHD last season was McCabe (for 3/4ers of the year) and this season is a revolving door of kids under 22 or in the case of Korchinski still a teenager.

You personally don't want Murphy....I get it. If you don't think adding Murphy as opposed to rolling Brodie, McCabe, and Liljegren with Benoit playing 18 minutes a night as a bandaid 2nd pairing wouldn't help, I don't know what to tell you other than good luck with that D core in the playoffs and you better hope the Leafs find someone. Murphy (or someone) slides McCabe back to strengthen the LHD and slide Benoit down the lineup to the 14-15 minutes he should be playing.


Jones is a number 4 defenceman. Giving him 6 million is too much. And no Murphy is not better than Brodie, or Liljegren who's surpassed Brodie. McCabe was better than Murphy on the Hawks last season and it's clear he's not as good as people said. Being the best on a bad team doesn't make you great on a good team. If they were great the team they are on wouldn't be terrible.
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12 janv. à 12 h 17
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That's dumb... Lilly is the second best puck moving defensemen the Leafs have while production very good defensive metrics...


Why do all the Dubas fans think the same? I could care less what the metrics are
12 janv. à 12 h 19
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12 janv. à 12 h 35
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Why do all the Dubas fans think the same? I could care less what the metrics are


Or winning, or players that are good at hockey. Just hits
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12 janv. à 12 h 39
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
That's dumb... Lilly is the second best puck moving defensemen the Leafs have while production very good defensive metrics...


To be fair, this isn't Peeke for Lilly straight up. Lilly is also paying for Kuraly, whom Columbus would be loath to give up. Still not sure there's a deal there at all, since Columbus doesn't have a slot for Lilly, either. He's not playing top two pairs over Severson or Jiricek, and they need Gudbranson in the lineup because other teams keep taking runs at KJ and Fantilli.
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12 janv. à 12 h 40
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12 janv. à 13 h 56
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Quoting: Brad_Treliving
Why do all the Dubas fans think the same? I could care less what the metrics are


I do care about positive defensive impact and Lilly has that and some
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12 janv. à 15 h 37
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To be fair, this isn't Peeke for Lilly straight up. Lilly is also paying for Kuraly, whom Columbus would be loath to give up. Still not sure there's a deal there at all, since Columbus doesn't have a slot for Lilly, either. He's not playing top two pairs over Severson or Jiricek, and they need Gudbranson in the lineup because other teams keep taking runs at KJ and Fantilli.


Then the deal doesn't work...
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Then the deal doesn't work...


Agreed. Lilly is definitely a valuable piece the Leafs should keep, but if they do trade him, Columbus just isn't the destination.
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