Colorado easily declines. But keep the dream alive as long as possible I suppose.

San jose isn’t moving a top 3 pick for a bunch of later pick. Habs picks would need to be involved. Lets say San jose draft 3rd overall and habs are 6th then with another first round it might do it but that a real long shot

You where probably one of the guy’s of bashes Lehkonen all year. Wanting him for a 4th round pick.

For sure the sharks are not doing that.

Going based off The Athletic's valuation of picks and Tankathon's pick placements (based on the reverse standings right now), the Sharks' pick is worth 17.7 GSVA while the picks being sent their way are 6.3 (Flames), 4.3 (Oilers), and 3.1 (Avs), or a combined 13.7 GSVA. That's pretty far under the comparable value and from what I've seen looking through a few trades (very small sample size), usually the team trading up overpays according to that chart, especially involving 1st round picks.

For instance, a couple years back the Coyotes traded up from 27 (3.2) to 11 (5.7) and it also cost them 34 (2.5) and 45 (1.8), where 27 + 34 is equal in value to 11 and the 45 is a bonus throw in.
Preds traded from 40 (2.1) and 51 (1.5) for 27 (3.2).

I'd looked more up in the past but I'm too lazy to go through again and find them and do the math. I know that chart isn't universal and values vary from draft to draft based on what's available, I just think it would cost more to move up (and I wouldn't be surprised if the Oilers' pick was later than 18th).

Of course if it happens after the lottery and the Sharks drop to 2nd (12.3) or 3rd (10.2), that's a pretty significant drop in value but I assume you're making this trade to get Celebrini.

I like Monahan just fine. But (1) he's not a good fit in Colorado, and (2) a guy with 9 ES points isn't worth that price.

If you want to dunk on me with Lehkonen, you're right that I thought Barron and a second was too much at the time. Certainly never suggested he was crap or worth that little though. Not even close.

Cool idea to try and get a first overall

Not a hope on that Colorado trade but y'all keep dreaming....everyone's gotta have a dream!

My point was someone will pay the asking price because team fill need and gave up each year for it. If you would look deeper you would notice that even with only 9 es strength point he is among the leader on the Habs. That show you how little depth they have. I mean he is right now playing on the second line with Anderson and Ylonen. No offense to both players but they should not be near the top 6 on any good team. Monahan might not be McFarlane target but there at least 6-7 team that will be looking for center depth and Monahan is one of the best option at center this deadline.

That's a reasonable argument, but I would have had to read way in between the lines of your first comment to get any of that.

Personally I see Monahan as getting a 2nd and maybe a depth type prospect on top of that. I don't think he'll get a first, but the scarcity point you made could mean I'm wrong. I still don't think so, but we'll see.

You know the difference between Lehkonen to the Avs and MTL’s trying to force Monahan to them here? Lehkonen fit like a glove stylistically to the Avs. Watch a middling skater similar to RyJo in Monahan is a death knell to pretending it fits. I thought the Avs overpaid at the time of the Lehkonen trade but I liked it because of what he brought in terms of tenacity, speed and defensive play. Monahan doesn’t fit stylistically, his production in MTL doesn’t translate to COL because 1 he wouldn’t play 18 minutes a game, 2 he gets crushed in shot metrics something the Avs pay attention to, 3 he just isn’t a good enough skater to keep up with the Avs other forwards. Do I think it’s possible MTL gets a 1st out of a Monahan trade, sure but it won’t be to a team like COL that really wants to play in transition and forecheck hard.

No one forcing nothing you are just getting on a rampage because you don’t like the idea. It’s a fantasy site for hockey geak and some hockey not so geek. Possibility are almost infinite. Personally i think a guy’s like Jake Evans would be lot more interesting for The Avs. Evans can play against anyone, you can play him away against any line and he won’t hurt you. He will puts 20-30 points a season.

I’m not on a rampage and I love talking trades that make sense, MTL fans though just can’t resist trying the Monahan trade and I’ve never seen an Avs fan like a Monahan trade. I happen to agree with you about Evans especially if they push Colton to 2c which they’ve actually already done an Evans Wood LOC line would be fast, hard to play against and give them a line they can throw out in most situations, as is anything the price is what matters, COL is low on draft pick capital and there is no way they would include a first but a lower pick, heck maybe even a lower pick and a secondary prospect heck I’d love to discuss Evans Kovacevic package it isn’t sexy but it does fill needs, and they aren’t expensive, but what is MTL wanting in return?

Based on the Goodrow deal i think Habs would be looking for the first round pick and Avs would gets the habs 70thish pick. I don’t see much weakness in Colorado line up, especially if Landeskog get back for the playoffs. The only weakness i see is the 4th line depth. Olofsson isn’t the solution at 4 line in my opinion.

Olofsson is functional I just think he’s a winger, I’m far less concerned about the 4th line because Bednar plays them 8 minutes or less. I really wouldn’t want to include the 1st but I don’t know that they have a lot else that would be worth it because Ritchie should be off the table. Thoughts on Behrens or Gulyayev?

Problem is that Mtl is saturated on defensive prospects. And Ritchie like you said is pff the book. That why i think the most valuable piece would be that first round. The problem is that you can’t play your 4th line 8 min when playoff come. You need realiable players to eat minute. That why i thought Evans would be a perfect fit. If the reward is greater for Colorado, i think they consider moving a first since that first round pick won’t help them until 3-4 years if he become something. That my thought process.