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Créé par: Celtics21

Équipe: 2023-24 Bruins de Boston

Date de création initiale: 4 janv. 2024

Publié: 5 janv. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

I think each team ends up with what they want. I’m sure there are plenty of reasons why this wouldn’t work, but as I see it for all three teams, there is a net benefit.

- NJ gets a goaltender who has put up the best stats over the past 1.5 years of any goaltender in the league locked into a good contract. They also get rid of some of the inefficiency with Vanacek

- Boston secures the hometown D and a good 2C. More predictability for their offseason. It costs them Ullmark, Lohrei, and a first plus a well like D in Grz, but get other positives in return.

- Calgary: Two #1’s, a very good offensive D in Lohrei with control, and they use only one retention slot. I think they could try to separate them, but both are likely rentals and the secondary assets you’d be getting don’t have nearly the upside of Lohrei if you actually watch him play. Grz with a retention slot gives you some value OR you could try to keep him.

Transactions

BOS

Vanecek, Vitek (1 700 000 $ retained)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NJD)

NJD

Ullmark, Linus

BOS

Hanifin, Noah (2 475 000 $ retained)
Lindholm, Elias

CGY

Grzelcyk, Matt
Lohrei, Mason
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (BOS)

Rachats de contrats

Mike Reilly: 333 334 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

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TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	79 353 334 $	4 500 000 $	80 000 $	4 146 666 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Zacha, Pavel 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 4	Lindholm, Elias 4 850 000 $4 850 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Pastrnak, David 11 250 000 $11 250 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 8
Marchand, Brad 6 125 000 $6 125 000 $ AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Coyle, Charlie 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ C, AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	DeBrusk, Jake 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
van Riemsdyk, James 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Poitras, Matthew 870 000 $870 000 $ (80 000 $$80K) C RFA - 3	Frederic, Trent 2 300 000 $2 300 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Heinen, Danton 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Beecher, John 925 000 $925 000 $ C RFA - 2	Geekie, Morgan 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C, AD RFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Lindholm, Hampus 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DG NTC, NMC UFA - 7	McAvoy, Charlie 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ DD UFA - 7	Swayman, Jeremy 3 475 000 $3 475 000 $ G RFA - 1
Hanifin, Noah -1 237 500 $-1 237 500 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1	Carlo, Brandon 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 4	Vanecek, Vitek 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ G UFA - 2
Forbort, Derek 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1	Shattenkirk, Kevin 1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Lauko, Jakub 787 500 $787 500 $ AG, AD RFA - 2		Lucic, Milan 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ (500 000 $$500K) AG, AD NMC UFA - 1
Wotherspoon, Parker 775 000 $775 000 $ DG UFA - 1
Mitchell, Ian 775 000 $775 000 $ DD RFA - 1

5 janv. à 16 h 31

CalvinKlein

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I'd say yes to that if I'm NJ.

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5 janv. à 16 h 47

princessTom

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Ullmark, Lohrei, Griz, 1st for Hanafin, Lindholm, Vanecek

If BOS is giving up all that, they gotta resign Hanafin 100% (with Lohrei gone) and likely Lindholm

Everyone gets what they want/need, IMO thats a good trade for NJD to get rid of Vanecek and upgrade to Ullmark, and although CGY is giving up a top 2C and a top 4D, they're getting quite the haul in return

Gotta admit tho, that lineup is looking much more well-rounded from top to bottom (minus goaltending) although Vanecek would be a very servicable backup

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5 janv. à 16 h 55

Celtics21

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Quoting: princessTom

Ullmark, Lohrei, Griz, 1st for Hanafin, Lindholm, Vanecek

It’s a monster deal. I kept on reading other trade options and just kind of landed here.

Every team could probably go I don’t want to because of one reason or try to optimize, but the construct is pretty interesting for all. Maybe not the optimal scenario for all, but a landing point that makes every one better long term considering who can resign these players

My assumption is Boston signs both Hanifin and Lindholm.

Going multiple years without a first and a second is painful. While my general assumption is you’ll be lucky to secure a better than 3rd line forward or dman from that group, you generally secure one in a 3 year period from those 6 picks and that player is generally worth a lot in the ELC timeframe

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5 janv. à 17 h 1

dgibb10

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I don’t think NJD would be retaining on vanacek in this deal.

We’ll retain 50% of lindholm for you tho if you drop the 3rd

But I’d rather have vitek as an insurance option at 3.4 (and only 2.35 buried, then guaranteed retaining 1.7.)

1st+we retain 50% on Lindholm for Ullmark

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5 janv. à 17 h 21

dgibb10

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Boston gets:
50% retained Lindholm
50% Hanifin
Gives:
Ullmark
1st
3rd
Lohrei

NJD gets:
Ullmark
Gives:
1st
50% retention on Lindholm

Calgary gets:
1st
1st
3rd
Lohrei
Gives:
Hanifin 50% retained
Lindholm

Calgary gets the same assets-Gryz which has no value to them really

Boston can keep Gryz as depth (or ship him off or even include him here if they want to use the money elsewhere), because they're saving 3 mill with retention on Lindholm and Bussi vs Vanacek

NJD saves a 3rd and keeps an insurance option in net

5 janv. à 18 h 10

Celtics21

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The irony is the deal discussion turns to the marginal goalie, workmanlike defenseman, and least valuable pick. Cap Friendly can be fascinating some times.

I also don’t believe NJ or Boston would say no if someone took a hardline position either way. Frankly, it’s talking about margins to tweak rather than the crux of the deal.

I hope this doesn’t come across as criticism. It just made me laugh a bit

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5 janv. à 19 h 8

dgibb10

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Quoting: Celtics21

The conversation being around the secondary pieces means you made a quality, overall well thought out proposal. Props to you

6 janv. à 2 h 13

Traptor

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Flames say no. This isn't good value.

6 janv. à 17 h 9

Celtics21

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Quoting: Traptor

Flames say no. This isn't good value.

Calgary isn’t getting better value than 2 number 1s and a prospect like Lohrei. Sorry. Rentals don’t get that. A 2nd and 3rd isn’t going to provide a player this close with that upside. Curious to see how it plays out, but I think Calgary fans are going to be disappointed

6 janv. à 19 h 6

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Quoting: Celtics21

I look at two comparables for each.

For lindholm:
Giroux for tippett + 1st
Horvat for 1st + raty + Beau

Hanifin:
H lindholm deal
Seth jones deal.

So lohrei + 1st for lindy is fair.
Then 1st + x2nds(or comparable prospect) for hanifin.

So remove the 3rd and add x2 2nds and the deals good.

6 janv. à 20 h 2

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Celtics21

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You aren’t contemplating cap adjustments in the deals or in the case of Horvat/Lindholm, the fact that one was having a career year and the other one of their worst,

6 janv. à 23 h 19

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Quoting: Celtics21

You aren’t contemplating cap adjustments in the deals or in the case of Horvat/Lindholm, the fact that one was having a career year and the other one of their worst,

Also devils decline now. Not buying a goalie with Siegs and Hamilton out. Need 1, maybe 2 dman or to just sell and punt to next year

7 janv. à 0 h 29

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Celtics21

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Quoting: dgibb10

Also devils decline now. Not buying a goalie with Siegs and Hamilton out. Need 1, maybe 2 dman or to just sell and punt to next year

I don’t understand why you would go all in this year. I’d be trying to see if one of your young goalies is the answer with Schmid having the most potential.

Even though Boston is in first place in the Atlantic, I kind of see them in the same light

7 janv. à 0 h 33

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dgibb10

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Quoting: Celtics21

With Siegs and dougie out long term, Jack potentially out long term, and Palat and Meier out right now, this is a selling season.

A score of 3 rookies miller and smith isn’t gonna cut it, especially with our goalies

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BOS

NJD

BOS

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