Doubt we move both anyways, but if we did its not a enough

If Nosek and Foote are both returning, we probably don’t need Dickinson.

Would put a jump start on a rebuild if you decide to go into one. And cap to work with for a retool.

But seperate it, what is the cost on both.

1st+Vanacek for Jarry
1st+Bahl for Pettersson is how I have it

Fair enough, I could use it to sweeten either the pettersson or Mcleod deal

Any reason why you want Ryan McLeod?

Nice depth piece, brotherly love, speed fits in with the team

His speed would fit well in jersey, maybe reduce the Michael Mcleod extension cost, good depth. I'm looking for 1 more depth piece especially if we move toffoli to really solidfy the bottom 6 in general and in case of injuries

I think this move is only in rebuild mode not a retool. That being said, in a rebuild the offers would need to be competitive and I think this gets beat.

Specifically the Jarry deal also considering I do not see Vanacek as a positive

I’m not sure how good Graeme Clarke is but if he can tap into any of the Brandt Clarke genes then that would be a nice win. Toffoli would also be great on Oilers 2nd line. Trade seems pretty fair.

(My spidey-sense tells me I’m about to get blasted by another Oilers fan for not knowing anything)

Neither do I. But you will need a goalie back in any Jarry deal and shedding cap and term could be helpful. Not sure if Jarry is worth a 1st on his own at 5.4 tho.

I would be willing to add to beat/match any (realistic) competing offers for Pettersson, and would up a bit to match offers for jarry, but this would be my offer and I'd ask you to give us the chance to match another offer

Clarke is limited in his overall upside but I expect him to be a decent enough NHLer. Been very productive in the AHL throughout his time here.

I understand and thinks its reasonable. Maybe we should consider a rebuild but cant see it happening. Id be surprised if we were to move either Jarry might be more likely honestly

I'd be interested in either or both. Will have to see how it plays out in the metro over the next month or so

Not enough for Pittsburgh.

I understand 1st + Bahl = Pettersson

Gonna take more for the Vanecek deal given his play and still having another year on his deal.

I'd take out vanacek if you sent us back a 3rd. We'd eat the cap hit this year (wouldn't bring in dickinson) and then dump him next year using that 3rd

Jarry+3rd for 1st?

Presumably he'd just be in pitt to eat starts (idk who their 3rd goalie is), maybe bounce back with a fresh start and be flipped.

Its not too far off value wise, would say downgrade the pick to a 2nd potentially based off the previous Toffoli trade and his slight regression.

Don't think it's a move Edmonton makes just cause Holland doesn't trade almost anything for rentals and Mcleod's recent chemistry with Drai and Foegele.

I don’t think I could move off a 1st. I could send back a 3rd maybe but that’s as good as I think I could do before I’d much rather just keep toffoli.

I’d say toff has been as advertised. This is a similar package to the toff trade originally but now we’re retaining an extra 2 million

For a late 2nd rounder, and one that's in 2025, I bet the hawks keep Dickinson and that's without a 4th going back like you suggest here

The 2nd rounder would become 2024 if we make the ECF, but regardless Dickinson is more of a want than a need so I’d go on my way

I think Jarry has more value. What type of value do you place on Mercer?

2 1sts or so. Certainly more than Dach got.

Has potential at the most valuable position in hockey while being incredibly durable, versatile, and cheap with half a decade of control and can certainly be had for the next decade at a bargain price because of said control

Mercer+Vanacek for Pettersson+Jarry would be my offer

I liked Dickinson tonight vs NYRs, you may be onto something. Let's see him again tomorrow vs us.

I like him on the PK, and I feel like he's the kind of guy we can move anywhere up and down the lineup in case of injury

Wouldn’t trade Mcleod one for one for a retained rental Toffoli. And you want us to add a 1st? The first could be coming from Jersey and I’d still be leaning towards no.

Wild levels of delusional homerism

I’ll send you a 1st for Michael Mcleod then. Deal?