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Penguins - Tear it down

Créé par: Talisker66
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 18 déc. 2023
Publié: 18 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR activée: Oui
Journées à la saison: 192
Journées restantes: 122
Saison restante: 64%
Masse salariale projetée avant les jours restants Info-bulle : 86 468 474 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (COL)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (COL)
COL
  1. Guentzel, Jake
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
2.
PIT
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
3.
PIT
  1. Hayton, Barrett
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (NYR)
ARI
  1. Pettersson, Marcus
  2. Smith, Reilly
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
4.
PIT
  1. Broberg, Philip
  2. Campbell, Jack
  3. Foegele, Warren
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de COL
Logo de PIT
Logo de WSH
Logo de EDM
Logo de OTT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de NYR
2025
Logo de PIT
Logo de EDM
Logo de PIT
Logo de COL
Logo de NYR
Logo de EDM
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
2026
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de SJS
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $74 042 500 $0 $850 000 $9 457 500 $
Masse salariale proratée

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
925 000 $587 760 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $5 528 125 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 125 000 $3 256 510 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 000 000 $3 177 083 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $3 876 042 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
775 000 $492 448 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 750 000 $1 747 396 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 450 000 $1 556 771 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
1 775 000 $1 127 865 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
900 000 $571 875 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 000 000 $1 270 833 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 125 000 $1 985 677 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
850 000 $540 104 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
775 000 $492 448 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $2 859 375 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
10 000 000 $6 354 167 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 500 000 $953 125 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
775 000 $492 448 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $3 876 042 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 000 000 $3 177 083 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
775 000 $492 448 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
800 000 $508 333 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $548 576 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 1

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18 déc. 2023 à 10 h 10
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Col isn’t trading 1st for wingers period.
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18 déc. 2023 à 10 h 38
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Every single trade is undervalued on the Pens side.
18 déc. 2023 à 10 h 45
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I dont think the Pens could be torn down if they tried
Sure you could find homes for Crosby and Malkin, but what does that say about your franchise? and would they accept any deal
Letang and Karlsson wouldnt be easy trades. Letang is paid big money till he's like 50 and we just saw the return Karlsson got and it would only be less now
Plus long term deals to Rackell, Rust and Jarry would be tough to move
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18 déc. 2023 à 11 h 9
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AZ passes
18 déc. 2023 à 11 h 16
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Colorado probably isn't the team to get Guentz, but I think he gets more than that. Carolina would make more sense

Oilers should absolutely do that IMO

No chance Arizona does that, even if they do have an endless supply of 2nd rounders
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18 déc. 2023 à 11 h 40
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Hawks decline. The last thing they are trading away a pick for is another left shot D.
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18 déc. 2023 à 11 h 52
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These are terrible deals for the penguins?????

I think Jake to COL makes sense, but I doubt that's where COL adds. Jake is worth a 1st + prospect (or 2nd) at deadline.

POJ is not worth a 3rd.

Pety and Smith NTC's block the trade to Arizona. Pety retained at 50% is easily returning a 1st to a team contending that needs a defenseman badly (TOR/DAL/NJ/Etc). Not sure what you can do with smith given his cap hit and realistically the pens would retain on Jake and Pety and those spots are the only two open.

The EDM trade is god awful. How do you not have a pens getting a 1st round pick in that? No one is taking Campbell's cap/term without at least a 1st coming back and EDM knows that.
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19 déc. 2023 à 11 h 35
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Quoting: Victor24
Every single trade is undervalued on the Pens side.


Quoting: AStovetop
Colorado probably isn't the team to get Guentz, but I think he gets more than that. Carolina would make more sense

Oilers should absolutely do that IMO

No chance Arizona does that, even if they do have an endless supply of 2nd rounders


Quoting: pens1991
These are terrible deals for the penguins?????

I think Jake to COL makes sense, but I doubt that's where COL adds. Jake is worth a 1st + prospect (or 2nd) at deadline.

POJ is not worth a 3rd.

Pety and Smith NTC's block the trade to Arizona. Pety retained at 50% is easily returning a 1st to a team contending that needs a defenseman badly (TOR/DAL/NJ/Etc). Not sure what you can do with smith given his cap hit and realistically the pens would retain on Jake and Pety and those spots are the only two open.

The EDM trade is god awful. How do you not have a pens getting a 1st round pick in that? No one is taking Campbell's cap/term without at least a 1st coming back and EDM knows that.


if we were doing a full rebuild, which we're simply not... worst case is a retool... bc that's the mandate from ownership I believe until I hear otherwise.......
then putting that aside......

gotta think PIT could get a 1st back from EDM esp with taking the Campbell deal... and broberg requested a trade, so his value is down... and they have been super desperate for goaltending...

that would be steal for ARI, but I see them building from within and not making splashes at the TDL even if they're in the mix...

Guentzel does have more value if we retain, but don't think COL would be the team to get him... I have previously thought of LAK, MIN, FLA, SEA but who knows honestly at this point....
 
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