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Créé par: DQavis
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 5 déc. 2023
Publié: 6 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR activée: Oui
Journées à la saison: 192
Journées restantes: 135
Saison restante: 70%
Masse salariale projetée avant les jours restants Info-bulle : 90 690 955 $
Description
In this scenario mtl adds lots of picks and possible forward talents

In the lineup i ranked each player by the potential as i see and put them in that order every player thats movable and not part of the team going forward is traded
Colorado trade is a reach as girard isnt needed but can be useful
Other contracts are players being used during the rebuild and unmovable contracts

Lemme know if any trades are bad perfect or good
Yes ik this is unrealistic but woukd u stand by these values and trades
Imnt very certain on bourques hughes and lysells values but keep in mind most these trades might be over valued but for cup contenders gotta do whats best now not then
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3950 000 $
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3950 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Campbell, Jack
  3. Holloway, Dylan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
This trade has to be worth while for edm moving a serious cap issue sending holloway former first rd current faluire atm and 2 late picks if u could make it the playoffs work
EDM
  1. Allen, Jake (1 925 000 $ retained)
  2. Evans, Jake
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
Allen can play starter and adding a top 9 defensive forward like evans can be excellent depth

Mtl sends min 3rd who wont finish low or high

And just to add a sweetner for mtl the will retain for 2 yrs and pick up bourgault
2.
MTL
  1. Lysell, Fabian
Détails additionnels:
1v1 mtl adds a nice future sniper and boston will do more moves to make room probably moving grzelyck
BOS
  1. Monahan, Sean
Détails additionnels:
Boston adds a nice top 6 center who wins draws can score pp bumper and cheap
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
Vegas gets a reliable top 6 forward who is cheap has term and can even ride the bench and barely affect the cap in there deep run
VGK
  1. Kovacevic, Johnathan
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
Mtl trades 3rd to ensure a 1rst
4.
MTL
  1. Arvidsson, Viktor
  2. Hughes, Jack [Liste de réserve]
  3. Turcotte, Alex
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (LAK)
Détails additionnels:
A strong team like lak can use a top 4 elite puck moving defender whos proven to have a elite puck moving skill can qb a pp rack up pts and in this system can do way better then in mtls
LAK
  1. Matheson, Michael
Détails additionnels:
This return is considered weak for mtl but a late 1rst next yr they would rather want while alr having 3
The get ardvridson who hasn’t played a game and considered a cap casualty in this trade lak has been doing just fine without him

Mtl takes a shot a turcotte who was friends with caufield and a top rd pick
Hughes is the gms son of mtl and he might favour that trade even more
So overall lower value but a possible upside for the team and it moves a player who doesnt fit the timeline but is a great player
5.
MTL
  1. Bourque, Mavrik
  2. Faksa, Radek
Détails additionnels:
This trade brings in a vet eging for a cup and will do anything needed to do so they drop a 4th line defensive and expensive forward on a contender that all the cap matters and give up a 2nd rd b level prospect
DAL
  1. Savard, David
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (SJS)
Détails additionnels:
Mtl takes on cap casualty who is just expensive for a fourth liner when dallas had lots of depth and is in need of a minute eater role player vet like savard the give up 2 picks to even it out
6.
MTL
  1. Girard, Samuel
Détails additionnels:
Fellow french canadian player going home who can be a matheson and has a good cap hit for mtl and his age is perfect
COL
  1. Harris, Jordan
  2. Montembeault, Samuel
Détails additionnels:
Colorado is without francouis all year and needs a solid ass back cheap contract this year and a nice extension and add a nice young top 6 cheap team controlled contract
Basically 2 birds 1 stone avs cant afford toews byram and girard at the end of the day anyways
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
4383 500 000 $97 652 083 $1 170 000 $8 595 000 $-14 152 083 $
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950 000 $667 969 $
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NMC
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6 déc. 2023 à 1 h 35
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Lol, no.
6 déc. 2023 à 1 h 58
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This is all rather optimistic.
6 déc. 2023 à 2 h 23
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Where in the world would you think Matheson fits in the Kings line up? The Kings top 4 are all better than Matheson which at best puts him on the third pairing with Spence and that would be a horrible pairing. Not to mention at almost 5m per year on the third pairing would be a waste of cap space. This trade put the Kings in a horrible position now and in the future. Kings pass
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Quoting: mokumboi
This is all rather optimistic.


Read bio smh
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Lol, no.


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Where in the world would you think Matheson fits in the Kings line up? The Kings top 4 are all better than Matheson which at best puts him on the third pairing with Spence and that would be a horrible pairing. Not to mention at almost 5m per year on the third pairing would be a waste of cap space. This trade put the Kings in a horrible position now and in the future. Kings pass


Id rather a vet who can get 50pts then a rookie for a cup run.
6 déc. 2023 à 3 h 44
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I’d rather have Lysell long term than Monahan.
6 déc. 2023 à 6 h 37
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Haha on what planet is Kovacevic worth that? If we’re trading a first it’s for someone with more than 7 career goals at 26
6 déc. 2023 à 7 h 19
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Most of these are fair trades but bad destinations. And the Girard trade is straight up bad for Montreal
6 déc. 2023 à 7 h 40
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Oilers say no quite easily. Campbells contract is an easy buy out candidate, not as big of a cap issue as you think. Buy him out and you go shop for a 3M goalie that’s likely better than Allen anyways. Then Oilers are still in exact same cap situation, except instead of Campbell you have a 3M goalie that you sign.
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Read bio smh


I did. And I would not stand by the value of any of them past the first one.
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1- rather have Lysell career than Monahan rental

2 - Monahan does not crack our center lineup, he’d play wing, plenty of better options for that, including calling up Lysell

3 - Monahan has little value other than PP this year, his 5x5 production is terrible.

4- would not pay much more than 3rd/Merkulov, if that

5- not interested in him at all

6 - see #1
Bruinadian67 a aimé ceci.
6 déc. 2023 à 12 h 21
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Id rather a vet who can get 50pts then a rookie for a cup run.


The Kings are second in goals scored per game and second in goals against per game in the league. Cam Talbot might just be nominated for the Vezina this year and that is solely attributed to the defense of the Kings. I'd say there there absolutely nothing wrong with the way the Kings are built right now. Matheson wouldn't help the Kings in anyway shape or form.
6 déc. 2023 à 14 h 40
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love for all of those to go through but ...... not one would
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Quoting: Hckeydude123
The Kings are second in goals scored per game and second in goals against per game in the league. Cam Talbot might just be nominated for the Vezina this year and that is solely attributed to the defense of the Kings. I'd say there there absolutely nothing wrong with the way the Kings are built right now. Matheson wouldn't help the Kings in anyway shape or form.


all i gotta say matheson over spence 100% not a single sole would disagree
7 déc. 2023 à 14 h 25
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all i gotta say matheson over spence 100% not a single sole would disagree


Depending on the situation I'd agree with you. But you have consider everything the picture has to offer. Matheson is playing an average of 25 mins per night and has 23 points where Spence is playing 15 mins a night and has 9 points. I'd argue that if Spence was playing 25 mins a night like Matheson is he would be right around the same point total as Matheson. If you look at their advanced stats Matheson is currently at 1.74 points per 60mins and Spence is 1.73 per 60mins so they are both producing at the same rate just one guy is playing a lot more than the other. So big game moments sure I'd take Matheson but a full regular at their current cap hits I'd take Spence 10/10 times.
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Depending on the situation I'd agree with you. But you have consider everything the picture has to offer. Matheson is playing an average of 25 mins per night and has 23 points where Spence is playing 15 mins a night and has 9 points. I'd argue that if Spence was playing 25 mins a night like Matheson is he would be right around the same point total as Matheson. If you look at their advanced stats Matheson is currently at 1.74 points per 60mins and Spence is 1.73 per 60mins so they are both producing at the same rate just one guy is playing a lot more than the other. So big game moments sure I'd take Matheson but a full regular at their current cap hits I'd take Spence 10/10 times.


Forget spence in general hes a rhd and great 3rd guy whos young and has good top 4 potential
Matheson has proved in the last 3 years to be molding into a elite top 4 dmen are u gonna tell me smo who has 52 pts in 74gms with mtl a bad dog**** mtl is better then englund and bjornfot who have a combined 2 goals in 220 games and under 30pts only difference is they have combined +8 and matheson has -10 but on la that can def change imagine 3yrs 4.8 50 pt mtl player on a power house team like la
8 déc. 2023 à 12 h 9
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Forget spence in general hes a rhd and great 3rd guy whos young and has good top 4 potential
Matheson has proved in the last 3 years to be molding into a elite top 4 dmen are u gonna tell me smo who has 52 pts in 74gms with mtl a bad dog**** mtl is better then englund and bjornfot who have a combined 2 goals in 220 games and under 30pts only difference is they have combined +8 and matheson has -10 but on la that can def change imagine 3yrs 4.8 50 pt mtl player on a power house team like la


I completely agree with you that Matheson is a top 4 defensemen on any NHL team however there is no room for him on the Kings in the top 4. Kings are currently sitting tied for 5th in the league in goals scored (the other 4 teams a head of them have all played 3 or more games and are only 6 goals away for each other) and 1st overall in goals against. So obviously the team is playing great defensively and very well offensively so there is no need or room for Matheson.

I'm not saying Spence is as good as Matheson I'm saying Matheson has been gifted the opportunity to play top pairing minuets which reflects in his stats and that if Spence got the same opportunity that the numbers would show in his stats as well.
 
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