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PSA for everyone trying to trade for Larsson and Borgen

Créé par: KrakenTheCode
Équipe: 2023-24 Kraken de Seattle
Date de création initiale: 1 nov. 2023
Publié: 23 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I've seen a lot of AGCMs with people attempting to pry Adam Larsson and/or Will Borgen out of Seattle. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news for all of you, but barring a mammoth offer Ron Francis cannot refuse, I find it hard to envision either Larsson or Borgen being traded. There are two main reasons for this:

1. Seattle's still in contention for a playoff spot - As of today the Kraken are in a playoff spot and are far from being sellers. Despite the slow start, they are still largely the same team as last year and are more than capable of making a run. Larsson and Borgen are key pieces of that and would be near impossible to replace should they be dealt midseason. Neither's point totals leap off the page, but Larsson and Borgen make their names on defense, with contributions that often don't show up on the stat sheet. Larsson soaks up tough defensive minutes against the best of the opposition and is exceptional at denying zone entries, and recovering the puck and facilitating zone exits. His presence also allows Dunn to venture forward more and pitch in on offense. Borgen meanwhile is one half of the Kraken's shutdown pairing and and is a more physical defenseman who plays more in his own zone, breaking up opposing plays and preventing scoring chances. Larsson and Borgen play different defensive styles, but both are crucial to the Kraken as a whole.

2. Seattle's long term contention window is just opening, so they won't be holding a fire sale - Even if the Kraken end up selling this trade deadline, it will be more of a soft sell that allows them to reload for next year. That means veteran rentals like Eberle, Schultz, and Wennberg would be much more likely to move, while players like Larsson and Borgen who still have term left on their deals would likely stick around and aid in the planned turnaround.

Below are potential trade valuations for Seattle's possible veteran rentals should they conduct a soft sell. Keep in mind that the deadline is so far away it's very difficult to determine team-specific needs and player values, so I made some guesses. The teams are not really super important though for the purpose of this exercise. It's also entirely possible that the Kraken continue fighting for a playoff spot and aren't sellers at all come deadline time. It's a long season and anything can happen over the next few months.

As always, helpful feedback is appreciated. A very Happy Thanksgiving to all those who celebrate!
Transactions
1.
SEA
  1. Nosek, Tomas
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
Potential return: Cap/Roster offset and a late 2024 first round pick (similar to trades like the Tarasenko and Bertuzzi deals from last year)
NJD
  1. Eberle, Jordan (2 750 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Player Profile: Veteran top-six RW who makes his bread as a scorer and has been known to elevate the play of younger linemates.
2.
SEA
  1. Hirvonen, Roni
  2. Klingberg, John
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
Potential price: Cap offset, prospect who stands a decent chance of being an NHL player (chose Hirvonen because he seems to fit the profile Seattle has targeted), 2024 3rd round pick
TOR
  1. Schultz, Justin (1 500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Player profile: Veteran RHD who's primarily offense focused, but isn't a total liability defensively. Can help out a team's power play by running their second unit and has a history of performing in the postseason.
3.
SEA
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Potential price: Mid-round pick and late-round pick
PIT
  1. Wennberg, Alexander (2 250 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Player profile: Versatile middle six center who can play a number of roles and is a solid playmaker.
4.
SEA
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (TBL)
Détails additionnels:
Potential price: Late-round pick
TBL
  1. Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
Détails additionnels:
Player profile: Veteran 4th line center who is good at killing penalties.
5.
SEA
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
Potential price: Late-round pick
BOS
  1. Megna, Jaycob
Détails additionnels:
Player profile: Defensively minded bottom-pair/7th defenseman at a below league minimum cap hit.
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $79 619 076 $129 910 $4 970 000 $3 880 924 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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897 500 $897 500 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
C
RFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 3
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918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance3 062 500 $$3M)
C
RFA - 3
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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5 166 666 $5 166 666 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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859 167 $859 167 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 900 000 $5 900 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 4
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
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2 700 000 $2 700 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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897 500 $897 500 $
DG
RFA - 2
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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23 nov. 2023 à 16 h 4
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PEB would be wearing a bolt if they wanted him.
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23 nov. 2023 à 16 h 22
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Leafs likely accept but klingberg is headed to ltir he won’t be traded
23 nov. 2023 à 16 h 25
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Devils Decline. not taking that contract and why are you ignore the terrible D? Devils need DEFENCE. Hey at least we score more goals but give up alot too
23 nov. 2023 à 16 h 34
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What a wonderful post! Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family!!
23 nov. 2023 à 16 h 53
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PSA for you: don't be a Debbie Downer for people with an ounce of creativity in their brain. Don't get offended when someone sees a SEA player as a good fit on their favorite team's roster. Quit being a gatekeeper, Negative Nancy.
23 nov. 2023 à 18 h 6
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If Devils spend a 1st in-season, it will likely be for a defenseman.

(If you are looking for Lou, he is out on the island now)
23 nov. 2023 à 20 h 39
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would love that for the pens.
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