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Rebuild V701

Créé par: Flames1217
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 18 nov. 2023
Publié: 18 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Lambert, Brad
  2. Schmidt, Nate
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
WPG
  1. Lindholm, Elias (2 425 000 $ retained)
2.
CGY
  1. Bourque, Mavrik
  2. Faksa, Radek
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
3.
CGY
  1. Smith, Brendan
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Zadorov, Nikita (1 380 000 $ retained)
4.
CGY
  1. Gibson, Andrew [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DET)
5.
CGY
  1. Klimovich, Danila
  2. Myers, Tyler
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
VAN
  1. Tanev, Christopher (2 000 000 $ retained)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $83 268 333 $0 $212 500 $231 667 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
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5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 8
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5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 4
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Stars de Dallas
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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825 000 $825 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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762 500 $762 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 8
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4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
5 950 000 $5 950 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
C
UFA - 1

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18 nov. 2023 à 8 h 0
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Could get so much more from Toronto for tanev and zadorov
18 nov. 2023 à 8 h 1
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PDG over PDO
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Vancouver isn't giving up a 1st for a soon to be 34yr old ufa who doesn't want to be in CGY
18 nov. 2023 à 8 h 14
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Quoting: theleano1
Vancouver isn't giving up a 1st for a soon to be 34yr old ufa who doesn't want to be in CGY


Significant cap savings in deal.
18 nov. 2023 à 8 h 18
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I think you greatly over value Dube. He's not worth one let alone both of those pieces. I could see him not even getting his qualifying offer next season.
You have the wrong team for Hanifin.
I doubt Winnipeg would want to trade Lambert right now, even for a retained Lindholm.
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18 nov. 2023 à 8 h 23
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PDG over PDO
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Quoting: Flames1217
Significant cap savings in deal.


for around 40ish game sure. not enough to pay a 1st for.
18 nov. 2023 à 9 h 4
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Switch Lambert for Lucius and have Lindholm agree to extend, and you’ve got a deal with WPG.. don’t even need the retention
18 nov. 2023 à 9 h 18
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Quoting: BatVader
Switch Lambert for Lucius and have Lindholm agree to extend, and you’ve got a deal with WPG.. don’t even need the retention


Lucius wouldn't do it for me due to taking on Schmidt's deal.

Another small add would need to be made.
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18 nov. 2023 à 10 h 10
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Not giving up a 2nd or an RHD for Dube.
18 nov. 2023 à 10 h 40
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Quoting: Flames1217
Lucius wouldn't do it for me due to taking on Schmidt's deal.

Another small add would need to be made.


This can definitely be worked out….as long as the requested add is realistic.
As I stated in my earlier post, we don’t need the retention, so take that into consideration as well
18 nov. 2023 à 12 h 3
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Quoting: Kinger25
Could get so much more from Toronto for tanev and zadorov


True but the real value for Zads is about that. At TDL its probably a stupid amount more. Would not surprise me to see the Leafs somehow take all 3 from Cal
18 nov. 2023 à 12 h 6
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Quoting: Smitty426
True but the real value for Zads is about that. At TDL its probably a stupid amount more. Would not surprise me to see the Leafs somehow take all 3 from Cal


I think we just want tanev and zadorov that’s all that’s been rumoured
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18 nov. 2023 à 13 h 54
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Quoting: Kinger25
Could get so much more from Toronto for tanev and zadorov


Zadorov isnt worth anything more than a 3rd and Devils clear the leafs in propsects so no they cant. You clearly want the leafs to over pay
18 nov. 2023 à 13 h 56
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Quoting: TyeZerker
Zadorov isnt worth anything more than a 3rd and Devils clear the leafs in propsects so no they cant. You clearly want the leafs to over pay


I’m totally fine overpaying as long as we get them both and don’t spend 2 1sts that’s totally okay by me
18 nov. 2023 à 15 h 13
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Brad Lambert’s a Top Prospect, Lindholm is the real deal, so you started off fine, but Schmidt has negative value and I don’t see any compensation for taking his back and the flames would want him anyways. How bout:

1st + Lambert + Ehlers FOR Lindholm + Dube + Stromgren!?

Add a 2nd and retain on Hanifin to match Faksa’s Cap Hit. Lian Bischel or Stankoven would be better than the 1st though and I’d see if we can get Dellandrea instead of the 2nd, even if we have to throw something additional back

You’re way low on Zadorov who’ll bring a 1st + Cap/Roster Player WITH retention or a 2nd + 3rd + Cap/Roster a player without

Dube’s value is closer to what you think Zadorov’s is = 3rd+. He’d really have to up his game and start producing a ton more before he’ll be worth a 2nd again

Fair Value for Tanev, but VAN likely doesn’t want to move Myers now, they’ll want to send Beauvillier or Garland and they’ll also try to come up with something other than giving up a 1st, like maybe 2x 2nds and change instead: Brzustewicz + Raty + I’d like to see one or both Jett Woo and Akito Hirose come back to Calgary as well, even if we need to add a piece in addition to Tanev. This might appeal more to CGY than a TOR 1st too, but it’s pretty much certain that’s already on the table if not.
18 nov. 2023 à 15 h 43
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Quoting: theleano1
Vancouver isn't giving up a 1st for a soon to be 34yr old ufa who doesn't want to be in CGY

Who said or where can you point out that Tanev doesn’t want to be in CGY!? Maybe he doesn’t want to return to VAN!? We’re Trading Tanev regardless, but I haven’t heard or seen anything indicating Tanev has said he wants out other than a generic tweet that Zadorov might not be the only one considering a change of scenery, which is very vague and could apply to any Flame Player

Quoting: Lancebmx
I think you greatly over value Dube. I could see him not even getting his qualifying offer next season.
You have the wrong team for Hanifin.
I doubt Winnipeg would want to trade Lambert right now, even for Lindholm

What!? Dube’s worth $2.4mil all day long, what’s your beef with him!?

Lambert’s still just a Prospect, Lindholm’s the real deal and could push them over the top

Quoting: Smitty426
True but the real value for Zads is about that. At TDL its probably a stupid amount more. Would not surprise me to see the Leafs somehow take all 3 from Cal

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Zadorov isnt worth anything more than a 3rd and Devils clear the leafs in propsects so no they cant. You clearly want the leafs to over pay

You guys either a) don’t know or watch Zadorov b) aren’t paying attention too or simply choose to ignore the amount of interest in Zadorov c) don’t realize he’s Better, Faster & Younger than MTL’s Chiarot and CLB’s Savard were Traded for 1sts+ and d) don’t understand supply & demand

You wanna pay a 3rd + 5th, go inquire about Old, Slow, No Offence, Goon’s & Pylon’s like Luke Schenn, Zach Bogosian, Joel Edmundson, Erik/Jack Johnson, Marc Staal, Robert Bortuzzo or inquire about Logan Stanley, Ben Harpur, Jared Tinordi, Phillippe Myers, Dylan McIlrath, Keaton Middleton, Jaykob Megna or Josh Brown, all of whom are nowhere near the level of Big-Z, who btw is in the Top-10 for scoring of all the Big D-Men (6’4+ 205lbw+) and with substantially less TOI at that
18 nov. 2023 à 16 h 5
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Bourque is a no go. Hanifin is overrated
18 nov. 2023 à 16 h 17
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Who said or where can you point out that Tanev doesn’t want to be in CGY!? Maybe he doesn’t want to return to VAN!? We’re Trading Tanev regardless, but I haven’t heard or seen anything indicating Tanev has said he wants out other than a generic tweet that Zadorov might not be the only one considering a change of scenery, which is very vague and could apply to any Flame Player


What!? Dube’s worth $2.4mil all day long, what’s your beef with him!?

Lambert’s still just a Prospect, Lindholm’s the real deal and could push them over the top



You guys either a) don’t know or watch Zadorov b) aren’t paying attention too or simply choose to ignore the amount of interest in Zadorov c) don’t realize he’s Better, Faster & Younger than MTL’s Chiarot and CLB’s Savard were Traded for 1sts+ and d) don’t understand supply & demand

You wanna pay a 3rd + 5th, go inquire about Old, Slow, No Offence, Goon’s & Pylon’s like Luke Schenn, Zach Bogosian, Joel Edmundson, Erik/Jack Johnson, Marc Staal, Robert Bortuzzo or inquire about Logan Stanley, Ben Harpur, Jared Tinordi, Phillippe Myers, Dylan McIlrath, Keaton Middleton, Jaykob Megna or Josh Brown, all of whom are nowhere near the level of Big-Z, who btw is in the Top-10 for scoring of all the Big D-Men (6’4+ 205lbw+) and with substantially less TOI at that


Would love him here in Jersey, but it's going to be a madhouse of an auction (with Tor having the mpst need). His stats square with that of less than the talk, so that's why we say it. And you're correct I have not seen alot of him to judge but it's not worth Jersey to give up our best prospect (Casey in this instance) for a couple of months of Zads. On board with a fair pkg, buy also a Cal fan started the thread. Guess we will see but I think hes a Leaf and they are more willing to give up more rn
18 nov. 2023 à 16 h 29
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Quoting: Smitty426
Would love him here in Jersey, but it's going to be a madhouse of an auction (with Tor having the mpst need). His stats square with that of less than the talk, so that's why we say it. And you're correct I have not seen alot of him to judge but it's not worth Jersey to give up our best prospect (Casey in this instance) for a couple of months of Zads. On board with a fair pkg, buy also a Cal fan started the thread. Guess we will see but I think hes a Leaf and they are more willing to give up more rn

I’m hoping Zadorov remains a Flame🤞

If not, a 2nd/Salminen + Bahl + 3rd/C.Foote would be fine for Zadorov 50% retained for me. He’s wanting a long-term contract, so just sign him.

And Casey isn’t in this thread 🧵
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18 nov. 2023 à 23 h 54
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Quoting: KingofRnR
I’m hoping Zadorov remains a Flame🤞

If not, a 2nd/Salminen + Bahl + 3rd/C.Foote would be fine for Zadorov 50% retained for me. He’s wanting a long-term contract, so just sign him.

And Casey isn’t in this thread 🧵


No Casey's not here but everywhere else
 
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