Leafs decline both and so does nylanders mnmc but whatever a guys aloud to dream

still wouldn't win the cup

Habs totally decline

Interesting to see what Flames fans think, I definitely think this is a better Leaf lineup than today and assuming Calgary extends him Nylander is a major piece vs all sorts of other trades proposed. Also not sure why so many think Nylander would decline a trade to Calgary.

Nylander had to submit a 10 team no trade list July 1, far from a guarantee Calgary would be on there. Can't see the Leafs or Tre declining either trade, especially when it still leaves us with our best prospects and high draft picks.

The issue would be that Calgary would need to trade Nylander for more futures than they could get with those 3 individually. The odds of Nylander sticking through a rebuild are slim.

Habs definitely decline lol.

And it's not even close

Boys, you're talking about a rental 3C who signed with the expectation of being traded. Get serious...

Not enough value for nylander so yes they would decline and leaf’s aren’t trading lily for a forward they don’t need they’re rolling right now not gonna mess with it

If the offer isn't a 1st+, we gladly keep him. Even then, we might end up keeping him. 13pts in 16 games is not quite what I'd call a 3C

How are 3 top 4 D, two of whom are capable of playing top pair minutes, along with almost 2 mil in cap not worth Willy and a guy who is struggling to stay in the lineup? Bringing in those 3 top 4 D also allows us to slot Brodie and Gio more appropriately and frees up Lily to trade for a 3C, which is a well known need for this team. The Leafs are far from "rolling right now" regardless....

Domi has been a great 3C Monahan isn’t needed lily isn’t going anywhere and zadorov is a 5D at best let’s settle down here and Hanifin isn’t needed certainly not at the cost of nylander

And what do you mean we haven’t been rolling? 18 goals in the last 4 games since they brought nick Robertson up that’s rolling

He stuck with the Leafs through worse

Even if he add a first I still wouldn’t do it

What do I mean? Even if you want to cherry pick those 4 games we had 1 win in regulation. We lost the previous 4 games, and dating back to our last regulation win prior to the canucks game we let in 4, 6, 5, 6, 2, 4 and 4 goals against. We are 7th last in GA/G, and have the 6th worst PK in the league. My trade is working to address that and your rebuttal is all the offense we've been producing? What offense are we losing in these trades anyway, despite the goal being to improve the team defensively?

We're 4th in the division, and barely have a stranglehold on a WC spot. Is this really your expectation of this team?

Leafs do neither of these trades just face it both are totally unnecessary and that’s fine the trades I post aren’t likely to happen exactly how I say they will but I know leafs have interest in tanev and zadorov they haven’t been linked to Hanifin not once and Hanifin probably won’t waive for canada anyways

The Leaf's rebuild was actually quite quick. Calgary has never rebuilt, just retooled and failed for 30 years

A) Leafs are not rolling. The D needs help. Badly.
B) They'd never consider trading Nylander for three rentals, even if they would immediately give them one of the best d-cores in the league. They'd need an extension on Hanifin to not hang up the phone immediately.
C) What are Habs fans smoking lol They don't want a young top 4 D for an expiring contract 29 year old that hasn't broken 40 points in four years?

I just explained why these trades are necessary, but obviously I'll need to explain further. Since the end of the 2022 playoffs, we've lost Muzzin, Holl, Lyubushkin (who we traded for to play with Rielly), Schenn (who we traded for to play with Rielly, replacing Bush and ending up as our 2nd best D man last playoffs). Gio and Brodie have both continued to age as they enter the final years of their contracts, both showing they were incapable of handling the load that was placed upon them in last year's playoffs. We acquired McCabe to replace Muzzin, who proved he was inadequate in that role.

So that's 4 defensemen we've asked to play top 4 minutes in the last two playoffs who have walked, with 3 who remain who were not adequate in the roles they were asked to fill, Unsurprisingly we're currently 7th last in GA/G (meaning there are 25 teams better than us in this stat), 5th last in PK% (27 teams now), and aren't even top 3 in a division we should be expected to win.

Now, are trades involving this many players likely to happen? Probably not, but that does not mean the Leafs wouldn't do it. Would Hanifin choose Toronto over Calgary? Most likely. Does this series of moves improve our team and address our obvious deficiencies? Of course. Is it necessary to address these deficiencies to win the cup? Of course.

For the sake of argument, I'll concede that Domi could continue to prove he's capable of being our 3C. That said, the loss of ROR does create that hole we're expecting him to fill, so if he's unable to be a long term solution at 3C, that hole will remain and would be filled perfectly by a player like Monahan.

Makes the team worse without a doubt

13 points in 16 games, winning faceoffs, 6'2", just turned 29... so you're Montreal, you keep the damn guy.

We'll extend the "rental 3C". Hopefully he signs with a "rental 3C" AAV lol

But yeah, I guess it's not being serious asking for more than a right-shot defenseman we don't need and don't want... while retaining on a player we love and wish to keep.

Sorry for "not being serious".

Cheers buddy, just poking fun ;-p

Hard to believe you can even say this with a straight face. Aside from the top line remaining unchanged, this literally improves every one of our pairs and forward lines with maybe the exception of the 2nd line, where we're replacing Nylander with Kane. The potential downgrade here should be worth the improvements elsewhere already, but there's even the chance that a healthy Kane makes this is a lateral move, or even improves the line. Not counting on it, but certainly not unfathomable either.

If you don't think this team is DRASTICALLY better, then I'm sorry to gatekeep but... you simply don't know what you're talking about.

We can add Kane and not lose nylander too lol leaf’s aren’t targeting Hanifin and if they do lily will be used in that deal they aren’t messing with the forwards but like I said before there’s been no rumours of Hanifin to Toronto none