Although Rinzel is highly thought of, would have to think the Hawks do this

To me, this is more of a philosophical question rather than a trade value question. I perceive this trade to be short cutting the rebuild that we really just started 1 year 8 months and 9 days ago. I know it seems like a long time, but Kyle Davidson was hired March 1st 2022. Rebuilds take time and I personally just want to do the rebuild right vs right now. For me, I see the value. I'm not ignorant to it. I'm a pass.

Yeah, I'm with you here. The earliest I envision KD making any "right now" trades is the summer of 2025, and even that is probably too soon. I think he will continue to "build through the draft and development" and let it come together "organically", until we know exactly what we need and legit contention is within reach with minimal moves. Unless there is something WAYYYYY too good to pass up.

I would say Hawks do this 100%. Bouchard is a great player. Rinzel is still an unknown at this moment. Very young, still 2+ years out. You take the certainty.

Acknowledging you said just the framework, and depending on what other pieces are involved, I'd think Kyle from Chicago would consider this. Hawks get a legit top 4 RD for the next decade. Give up Murphy now along with his likely replacement 3 years from now in Rinzell. So it's essentially a one for one swap. I'm good with a Vlasic/Bouchard pairing for the next 8 to 10 years.

Not sure i understand your comments. Bouchard is a blue chip player who just turned 24 years old in October. If Rinzel lives up to Bouchard's abilities he's already shown at only 24, it would be a huge win for the Hawks. Murphy is short-term for the Hawks, he's not part of the core moving forward, so giving him up should not be of impact to the Hawks rebuild given Seth Jones is leading as a vet. Think about this;

Vlasic - Jones
Korchinski - Bouchard
Kasier - xxxx

To have your top 4 on D locked in for long term is HUGE! You just can't pass that up on a gamble that Rinzel will be as good or better in the future. He's also 3 1/2 years younger, and not sure that's exactly a good thing when we talk about the length of development for d men sometimes.

There's a lot that goes into the thought process and I do see the value that Bouchard brings. I just can't get over that it's only been 1 year 8 months and 9 days of a rebuild. That's not long enough to truly start trading assets away. That's barely enough time for a Re-Tool. That's the biggest part of this to me. Do the rebuild right vs right now.

The more minor parts of this is that I'm concerned we're getting too much of the same thing. 50% of Bouchard's points come from the PP....which I'm not sure he'll be getting. Jones/Korchinksi are the now and future PP. KK maybe even later this year, but Jones will then be on the #2...not Bouchard. Vlasic/Jones on the PK #1, but who's the next 2? Bouchard doesn't really play much PK. I want to know where the Devon Toews of this team is? Where's the glue guy that doesn't need any PP time AND play more DZone% starts than OZone and still score and still have 130+ blocked shots and 100 hits. It's too early to compare Vlasic to Seabs. It's too early to compare KK to Keith.

The other minor part is that KK still needs to develop. He's a rookie and needs a veteran Dpartner for a while longer. Just look at Foligno teaching Bedard. I want to sign Folingo to another 1 year $4M deal. They're working so closely together that it almost looks like Foligno is Bedard's father! I don't want to trade Murphy away because for THIS team today...he provides a lot.