Don't think the Canucks do that, if we are moving Beau out it's to make space on the wing and and clear cap space, Dube hasn't been great this year and would likely be the 13th forward in Vancouver as for the Klimvoich trade. I could see P.A. rather just staying pat there. He's able to speak Russain which is helpful with Podkolzin down in the AHL this year

If the Canucks move Beau it would be to create cap room to fill a spot with a right shot dman. Also no reason for us to trade Klimo for Stromgren. They are the same age but Klimo has already spent two years in the AHL and is way further along in his development. Canucks decline both deals.

Yeah... the Pens pass hard on both trades lol

I know your'e doing video game trades, but come on man. If your'e gonna do that Pens trade you need at least one first round pick going to the Pens. At least.

Vladar is a trash goalie.

Tampa Bay probably declines. They could have grabbed Oesterle for free off waivers if they had any interest. And Rooney doesn't fill any need Tampa has. Especially at that cap hit.

Problem with any Boqvist move is that the return value is not going to be high. So if it's a player, Boston really doesn't need more 3rd to 4th line players. The best exchange would involve a pick like a 4th or something lower. But if you don't want to acquire him for a pick, then it makes a deal like that tough

What!? Hanifin is better than Graves, are you saying you'd prefer or value Graves more than Hanifin!? Ty Smith is Waiver Fodder and Poulin's a bust at this point = very little to no value, so that leaves Pickering & Svejkovsky to balance it out, two unproven prospects in return for a Finish unproven prospect and MEP who would likely be your next forward all-up

Sorry, but you obviously don't know Vladar. Like most everyone else on this site, you probably only evaluate Goaltenders on their Sv%, as if that's the only stat that matters lol and sorry, but you can't say Nedj is any better, he's just cheaper

Other then AHL'er Hellberg having a couple decent games, the Pens Goaltending has been weak this season and now Nedj is out week-to-week and Jarry is out dealing with something as well, so you have Hellberg and Blomqvist who has ZERO NHL experience and between the two they only have 25 NHL Games combined...

I'd say swapping an injured Goalie for a Healthy one for just $700k more isn't a bad idea and there's a cost to do so. A 3rd + 7th is nothing. I mean Crosby, Malkin & Letang aren't getting any Younger and you've invested heavily in bringing Karlsson and Graves in and Jarry back to continue making a go of it. Do you really want to put all your eggs in Hellberg & Blomqvist's basket and do you trust Jarry to stay healthy!? That'd be quite the risk and gamble AFAIC

EA Sports Trades means they're are numerous and it completely guts our Top AHL Team, which is completely unrealistic, but the Trades themselves, are intended to be realistic and meet both teams needs. I'm obviously targeting former high potential prospects for players we don't have long-term plans for and hoping a change of scenery benefits all parties and that the Flames hit a couple Home Runs and/or maybe even a Grand Slam by switching things up

Yup, and what does Myers do for you!? He's $100k more than Rooney, who if/when he comes back would be better Centre Depth than you currently have

Next, I see TBL using Oesterle before Myers

It's really an inconsequential, meaningless and uninteresting Trade, but to me it helps both Teams with their Depth &/or Cap Needs

1) Vladar is garbage. Flames fans want to act like he's something, but he's nothing. He's not even an average backup. We also have a top goalie prospect in Blomqvist who's going to be ready for the NHL soon. If you think Vladar is anything special, you don't know ANYTHING about hockey and you should delete your account.

2) I never said Graves was better than Hanifin. Graves is a cost-controlled top-four dman at a very friendly hit and Hanifin will wind up costing the pens, easily, $2M-$3M more per year to keep him vs. Graves contract, AND you want Pickering who's a very good prospsect? Get out of here. You're sending us a 1st to make that happen.

3) We don't even need Hanifin now. We have Erik Kalrsson, so we don't need someone like Hanifin anymore.

4) Learn hockey.

My guess is Boqvist could be had for a 7th or a fringe prospect

Myers does nothing. He's in the AHL. Who is Oesterle replacing on the blue line? DeHaan? Nope. Perbix? Nope. Raddysh? Nope. Tampa needs to tighten up things in their own end. Not exactly Oesterle's specialty. Again, if Oesterle is an upgrade over any of these guys, why didn't GM JBB claim him off waivers? And Rooney? He's not replacing Glendening as the 4C. Glendening is really good at the dot and solid defensively and on the PK. Exactly why Tampa signed him to replace Ballmare. I agree this trade is pointless for both teams. Which is why Tampa Bay probably declines.

It's purely depth and insurance moves for both teams, I'm pretty sure I said that and not all trades are about bringing in a player they need now. Anyways, you seem pretty hung up on TBL's needs for a Hawksguy

The only thing that could be considered GARBAGE here is your attitude man. Relax, it's a freaking fantasy sight and if you don't like what I have to say, simply move on, look past or hit the ignore button; there's no need for your inconsiderate, condescending, hateful attitude . Be Better! P.S. Vladar is > Nedj/Hellberg/Blomqvist

Go do a deep dive into goalie stats on NST. Of goalies who've played 500 minutes or more, Vladar is at the bottom of the league in every major category. So yeah...

I'll take his 29-13-7 Record and 2.89GAA over underlying stats all day long

Vladar's a Winner and although I could take the time to explain why his underlying stats aren't great, frankly, you're not worth my time

The fact you used GAA already shows your lack of hockey understanding. You probably cite +/- as a real stat, too.

Pens decline both. We have no need for Vladar, and the difference between Ned and Vladar is not worth a third. As for the Hanifin deal, we don't need him either. Graves is fine for what we need in the top 4, which is a solid shutdown d-man. On top of that, he is locked in long term when Hanifin will cost more and doesn't fit in our top four. On top of that, you have us sending a top prospect and Poulin who can probably become a solid third line center and is some very few youth PIT has that is NHL ready or close to it. The value of these two are probably a first and a fourth, and the difference in value between Graves and Hanifin is probably a fourth, maybe a third, which means PIT is overpaying massively. So not only is it a bad fit but it is also terrible value

This guys has no clue what he's talking about. First, he tried to shoot down by argument on Vladar by discrediting SV% as a valid stat (which I never brought up FYI) and then tries to act like GAA is a REAL goalie stat.

Nothing to see here LOL

Hanifin is only slightly better than Graves!? Yeah, that’s why Graves signed for $4.5mil and Hanifin will command $6.5-7.5mil/yr; must just be his better looks, hey!? Definitely not because he’s one of the best and fastest 2-way Defensemen in the league under $8mil/yr

Both your Top 2 Goalies are out and you’re tied for last in the Conference, yup, you definitely don’t need anything

Learn hockey.

Don’t be a jerk, teach me something if you know so much

Ok...

GAA and +/- (I know you didn't bring this up and it's irrelevant to goalies) are two outdated stats that are too broad to really tell you anything. SV%, while still somewhat broad, is a FAR better gauge of performance, but there are layers to SV% that you can dig deeper to get more context. Low danger, medium danger and high dangers SV% are things to look at. High danger is really the bigger one here to analyze. Those high danger chances are really telling you if your goalie is coming up bing in those clutch situations.

GSAA - goals saved above average - is another great stat to pay attention to. Without going into a lengthy description, it basically measures their performance in comparison to the rest of the goalies in the league.

www.naturalstattrick.com is a great resource for analytics

Vladar is a below average goalie in every aspect of the game. He's 26. While that's not OLD, he should be showing something by now, but he's showing to be below average in all aspects. He's not an upgrade from Nedejlkovic, so the trade really does nothing for us but take on more salary. Ned at least has some past history of above average goaltending.

This is better. Sorry for calling you a jerk and clown, but I can’t stand condescending replies and lols, lmaos and 😂. I know, I know, I’m at the wrong place if I want to avoid that, but it’s so annoying

Anyways, yes I’m aware of those, but I don’t use NST much, I’ll have to add it to my aresnal. I typically float between Cap Friendly, Hockey-Reference, EP and Dobber

Vladar is clutch, he’s amazing on Break-Aways and has Fantastic Soeed, Recovery and Reflexes. The issue last season and this season is not only playing in front of a weaker Team, but more their style of play

The Flames like Puck Possession and O-Zone Time. We’re decent at those, but terrible at finishing. What happens is we’ll have control of the puck for long periods of time and typically out shoot our opponents by a wide margin (sometimes getting 10 SOA to their 1-2), only to have a break down or cough up the puck leading to odd man rushes and/or breakaways, especially on the Power Play or as it ends

So what happens in the meantime is that our Goalies are just standing there. There’s no rhythm of play, regular shots on net or simply much opportunity for our Goalie to stay warm, let alone get in the game

Flames play a dominant game and then when the other Team gets it, boom they’re on a dangerous rush the other way and goal type thing. It’s so frustrating and it just doesn’t bode well for our Goalies. Make sense!?

Jarry is out day to day, and Hellberg played really well against LA. Hanifin is not what we need in our top four. We need a guy like Graves, a big shutdown d-man. On top of that, Graves will be cheaper which will be very important down the road. And PIT is starting to get some momentum. The reason we are last is because players were still getting chemistry (we had an almost 50 percent roster turnover) and we had guys slumping (Carter especially, and now he is out of the lineup). PIT is now on a three game win streak and is looking pretty good. I don't think that Hanifin is a need at all for PIT, and same with Vladar