Is he free and clear of the Team Canada stuff? I genuinely haven't heard much about it in a while. If he is that is an interesting offer for both teams IMO

Frederic is an important piece of Boston's winning ways. Lysell still has a chance to be a more impactful player than Batherson so value wise it's further off than you think.

You've gotta be ****ting me. You hope Lysell becomes a 60-point forward. When Batherson was 20, he was already in the NHL. There is no question Batherson >>> Lysell, especially with the contract factored in.

Frederic for a 3rd is easily worth the difference of Batherson to Lysell. Bruins could pick up another 3rd line centre from another team for the same price.

Haven't heard anything but I'm sure teams know behind the scenes whether he was part of it.

Boston should take that, lysell could be good but they need to win now. Still if they're going to add a forward that costs pieces and a good cap hit it should be a center.

You are jumping the gun. Of course Batherson is the better player right now. He's also 5 years older and might be carrying some extra baggage. The Bruins should stick with Frederic's contributions to a winning team and Lysell's relative youth and potential at this time.

Actually, Batherson did play when he was 20yo but he wasn't a regular for his first two seasons (2018-19 and 2019-20). Lysell could just as well play in the NHL over the next two seasons, even as a regular. Frederic for a 3rd isn't a good trade either considering some players with similar profiles bought back much more.

I want to see Lysell with Boston at least once this season for a few games at least. I'm still relatively high on him because he has shown great flashes. That being said getting a known asset in Batherson would be a good move, he would look great across from Marchand on the other wing

Last year they needed to win now but that thinking can't prevail this year. Two rookies and Zacha (who is better suited at wing) playing center ice does not bode well for needing to win now. Bruins need to take a longer view this year into the offseason.

It doesn't matter how good of a prospect you think Lysell is. The question was, "Is this good value?" For the Bruins, you'd take this in a heartbeat.

The fact is, at 20 years old with no NHL experience and some above-average scoring in the AHL, Lysell wouldn't fetch Batherson straight up. No way. Add in Frederic and a 3rd from the Sens, it still is totally lopsided in the Bruins favour if I'm a 3rd-party looking at this transaction. If Boston made this trade, they'd be laughing all the way to the bank.

I like Batherson’s 60 points. I hate his -35 on a team with a -11 goal differential. His underlying defensive stats are probably in the bottom quartile of the league. I believe Boston can better utilize the $5m of cap room next year, so I’d pass.

It’s probably a little high. If Boston offered that for Bertuzzi, I believe Toronto would say yes and I like Bertuzzi more than Batherson though I’m sure some would disagree.

I like what Coyle and Frederic are on the same line. I’m OK taking a shot with Lysell who has some elite skills to work with. I’m sure some would say yes. I would not.

I agreed that it was a good move for the Bruins. I also think they would be wise to let one of their top prospects play a few games in the NHL before trading him, just to do their due diligence. Not sure how that reads as me saying its not good value for Boston, unless there is some hard deadline on the offer because Trent Frederic is desperately needed by the Sens and calling Lysell up would cause it to lapse

Not untrue but at the same time, what is the incentive to move Batherson for Ottawa? I know a Sens fan has made this ACGM but nothing more than usual scapegoating when teams/players are underperforming.

Batherson still shows a lot of slick offensive plays and has one of the highest xGF/60 on the team and plays with a Center who has only been back after a long term injury and either Kubalik or Tkachuk for one game (who looked lethargic last night)


There's context to this (coaching, Norris injury, linemates, his own injury, maybe the 2018 WJC scrutiny)... I can assure you Batherson would be a + player in a system like the Bruins. He had the highest +/- on the Sens in 2021-22 (except Joseph and Hamonic who both played less than 20 games for Ottawa)

Yes, I don't see Sens moving Batherson especially to a rival.