I like it if the flames like it which I’m sure they would

The Flames should just re-sign Hanifin at a 6 million ish cap hit long term. Hanifin is only 26 and could be extended for 8 years as opposed to having Girard until he's 28 and then having to renegotiate.

It takes two to sign a contract.

And those two were close to a deal two weeks ago according to a plethora of insiders. If the Flames want to extend him they will.

where have you been my guy?

Why would Hanafin resign for anything reasonable with this Flames team.

Two weeks ago is not today. I don't think Hanafin would be in a rush after seeing how this season started.

Bonus laden contracts for Americans working in Canada, familiarity, if they retool properly they have a competitive window within his contract, 8 years is an option for Calgary which everyone is a significant amount of money, legacy contract until he's 36, literally plenty of reasons. Why would Gaudreau sign in Columbus? Why would Miller sign long term at the start of 2022 in Vancouver? Why would Skinner sign in Buffalo in the middle of a rebuild? If you're suggesting that Hanifin turns down an 8 year deal based on 8 games of a season you're so out to lunch it's insane.



You don't think both parties just said let's wait a bit? Why would they go get Girard for 3 years as opposed to Hanifin for 8? It takes 3 years for the Flames to have zero remnants of this trade.

Oh, I don't doubt you can sign him, but I think to get it done you're not getting him at the number that starts with a 6. You'd have to overpay.

Why did Skinner resign? Same reason I just gave you above. Buffalo paid him way too much money.

Gaudreau is a funny one because of the cap situation, but you know promising team with lots of upcoming players. But more importantly, he signed for 1m and 1 year less than what Calgary offered him lol.

Why would Miller sign with the 2022 Canucks? He literally said he really wanted to win and believed the Canucks could win. Obviously, the next year was brutal, but you know he probably looked around at all the youngish talent and the Budreau bump and thought he could win there. That contract was 100% less than he thought would have got in free agency, he didn't even take the 8th year. Also, believe it or not people like being in Vancouver, because it's Vancouver. It is 100% an asset in attracting players, even Americans. When people say not Canada on their NTC often Vancouver is excluded from that list if they are fine on being on the west coast.

I don't suggest Hanifin turns down a 8-year deal based on 8 games. That would be crazy. I am suggesting he pauses contract talks or slows them down to see how things play out. If the Flames win the next 10 great. But if they keep losing games the price of resigning will keep going up.

He's not getting more than Weegar, if someone on the open market would be willing to start it with a 7 then all the power to them, it would be wrong but all the power to them. Beyond that, to the original comment, if the Flames continue to lose why would they make a move for Girard for 3 years while giving up Mangiapane who they could flip for futures next season? None of it makes sense.

Gaudreau took money that put him closer to home. Which speaks very much to my point that players sign for all types of reasons and we genuinely know nothing on the outside looking in.

I think you sound like you're just spewing for fun with baseless points.

I have never thought magiapaine is anything special and he costs more than girard with less term. the trade seems like a loss for colorado. if landy doesn't return i'd rather keep girard and use the 3 mil you've given walker, in a trade for a middle 6 guy. Lehky has shown he can play first line so we could get a better 3C and move colton to wing.

I agree with you. If Landeskog doesn't return the Avs probably don't trade anyone and just use that capspace on an UFA instead.

Lol, I didn't comment on the rest of the trade and I didn't suggest any of the trade was good or sensible. All I was saying with how the Flames are currently playing I think they would need to overpay to resign Hanafin (if they keep playing like this). It's a simple point.

If I'm the Flames I'm giving it to about 20 games to see if I turn it around if they keep it at this rate I'm selling. The above-suggested trade makes absolutely no sense for the Flames to do, I agree, regardless of relative value. Flames should not be taking on term on 25 year old player.

The Flames should be looking for picks, prospects, and young promising players. The Flames look bad this year and the Kadri and Huberdeau contract looks scary in any context, but the good news is Flames have lots of assets this year to trade and maybe do a quick rebuild/retool. They're not in a bad spot if they play this season smart.

I agree Hanafin in the open market on a 7-8 year contract is probably mid-6m as fair value if he's going to a competitor. Might get overpaid and attracted to a bad team.

I've said a few times on here their trade targets should be 19 - 22 and on the brink of cracking NHL rosters whether they're stuck in a depth chart or need a change of scenery. They should trade for prospects over picks at this point because they have a projected $30M in cap space this off season that they can weaponize if they need to if they want to acquire picks. There's a realy really strong path forward, just a matter of if Conroy can make it work.

We 100% agree on that. Other than I think high picks in this years draft are also good. First's and lucky hits can be making an impact within 2-3 years.

We probably agree on most things about the Flames, just a very minor point of disagreement. Sorry if I was being too pedantic.

Meh, that's all a part of this website, is what it is! You gotta get your shots in where you can, I know Flames fans took every opportunity to jump on the Canucks the last few years!

I can't say I'm not happy since you know rivals. But also I love Tanev and really want him to end up in Vancouver, if not this year, next year as FA.

Tanev is a perfect target for the Canucks, I would say Zadorov as well but the Canucks have such a good puck moving back end already that can be a little mistake prone, Zadorov only adds to that.