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Shane Pinto

Créé par: GMDannyB
Équipe: 2023-24 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 21 oct. 2023
Publié: 21 oct. 2023
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Garrioch seemed to insinuate during the intermission of the Sens game that we will have clarity on Pinto soon and it doesn’t sound like an extension is imminent.

Flyers fans what are your thoughts on this trade if they decide to part with Pinto?
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I honestly think Frost is more valuable than Pinto and production wise Frost has better stats at similar ages but I think this trade fits both teams I think Frost is done in Philly and it’s clear Torts isn’t a fan of him so maybe we lose some leverage on that so I wouldn’t mind pay a 3rd to make up that difference even if I think Frost is worth more.
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21 oct. 2023 à 17 h 33
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Quoting: csick
Lol a 2nd? Lmao no chance


Mb I was meaning to refer to Frost
21 oct. 2023 à 17 h 41
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Quoting: sensonfire
Frost is currently a healthy scratch for the Flyers, so he might even clear waivers.

And the picks in the trade with Colorado can be used to acquire an immediate impact player.



And I'm sorry your offer for Pinto fell short once again.

Feel free to try again.


😂😂😂 u guys think Pinto is a future 2C but Frost is more of a 2C already but he would clear through waivers? Come on man this is why you guys aren’t taken seriously on here. That never in a million years would happen.
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😂😂😂 u guys think Pinto is a future 2C but Frost is more of a 2C already but he would clear through waivers? Come on man this is why you guys aren’t taken seriously on here. That never in a million years would happen.


Frost was a 2C last season.

What has he done this season ?


Also, Pinto doesn't strike me as the type of player that would be scratched by Torts FWIW.

If you want Pinto, you have to pay for him.

That's what Richard88 did.

You can too.
21 oct. 2023 à 17 h 53
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Work something out with Pinto and Foerster as the principles.
Need someone on an ELC to make the $ work. Even better add Brannstrom vs. Seeler + a mid pick
21 oct. 2023 à 17 h 55
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Quoting: sensonfire
Frost was a 2C last season.

What has he done this season ?


Also, Pinto doesn't strike me as the type of player that would be scratched by Torts FWIW.

If you want Pinto, you have to pay for him.

That's what Richard88 did.

You can too.


Pinto was a 3C last season.

What has he done this season ?

Also, Frost doesn’t strike me as the type of player that would be a 3C on a team that misses the playoffs FWIW.

If you want a Pinto replacement, you get one that has better stats than him

That’s what Frost has.

Pinto might eventually too.
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Quoting: Fergy22
Work something out with Pinto and Foerster as the principles.
Need someone on an ELC to make the $ work. Even better add Brannstrom vs. Seeler + a mid pick


Foerster is untouchable so that’s not even an option u would be lucky to get Frost or Laughton for a 3C
21 oct. 2023 à 18 h 53
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Quoting: GMDannyB
Foerster is untouchable so that’s not even an option u would be lucky to get Frost or Laughton for a 3C


Untouchable yet you have him as a scratch?
21 oct. 2023 à 19 h 12
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Untouchable yet you have him as a scratch?


He got scratched 1 game lol. He was on the inaugural AHL top prospects list last year as a top 3 forward in the entire AHL. He got scratched cause we are rotating in rookies to the lineup because they feel he’s too good for the AHL to send him down. Do some research.
21 oct. 2023 à 19 h 45
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Untouchable yet you have him as a scratch?


100% not an untouchable asset if you took a straw poll from Flyers fans. Only guys that would fall into that category are Michkov and Gauthier. He's projection is more middle-six, complementary scorer rather than some trailblazer maestro in the offensive zone. Wouldn't actively shop him in any deal but also wouldn't pass on trading him for the right price. I would rather keep him and see if he can develop his scoring versus trading for another 200-ft center when they have Couturier/Cates
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21 oct. 2023 à 21 h 26
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Quoting: GMDannyB
He got scratched 1 game lol. He was on the inaugural AHL top prospects list last year as a top 3 forward in the entire AHL. He got scratched cause we are rotating in rookies to the lineup because they feel he’s too good for the AHL to send him down. Do some research.


You're the one who did the line up and listed him as a scratch. You're a bit of a narcissist eh?
21 oct. 2023 à 22 h 13
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You're the one who did the line up and listed him as a scratch. You're a bit of a narcissist eh?


In a hypothetical lineup with Pinto but they would probably either move or sit someone else. Do some research.
21 oct. 2023 à 22 h 33
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Quoting: csick
Lol a 2nd? Lmao no chance

Can't you read?

The great one said "it’s gotten to the point" so it must mean something... but hey the problem is clearly Sens fans who express the desire to not getting bent over.

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😂😂😂 u guys think Pinto is a future 2C but Frost is more of a 2C already but he would clear through waivers? Come on man this is why you guys aren’t taken seriously on here. That never in a million years would happen.

Yet, anyone taking you seriously is dumb as a brick
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21 oct. 2023 à 22 h 38
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Pinto was a 3C last season.

What has he done this season ?

Also, Frost doesn’t strike me as the type of player that would be a 3C on a team that misses the playoffs FWIW.

If you want a Pinto replacement, you get one that has better stats than him

That’s what Frost has.

Pinto might eventually too.


1. Pinto hasn't done anything this season because we're unable to sign him.

Frost has done something this season and that's sit in the press box.



2. If I want a Pinto replacement, I would look at other things besides his stat line in hockeydb.

One thing I would look at would be the circumstances of why said replacement would often be a healthy scratch on another team.

Pinto doesn't have the problem of being a healthy scratch.

I wish I could say the same thing about Frost.
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1. Pinto hasn't done anything this season because we're unable to sign him.

Frost has done something this season and that's sit in the press box.



2. If I want a Pinto replacement, I would look at other things besides his stat line in hockeydb.

One thing I would look at would be the circumstances of why said replacement would often be a healthy scratch on another team.

Pinto doesn't have the problem of being a healthy scratch.

I wish I could say the same thing about Frost.


Got it so Frost has played 2 games and sat for 3 but Pinto hasn’t sat for any of the games he just hasn’t played in them. Ur logic is great, I wish I could go through life with ur kind of hoop jumping
21 oct. 2023 à 23 h 9
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In a hypothetical lineup with Pinto but they would probably either move or sit someone else. Do some research.


You’re a legend in your own mind
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You’re a legend in your own mind


Ur doing something wrong in life if u don’t have confidence in urself so thanks
22 oct. 2023 à 6 h 14
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I was thinking about this last night. Probably would have to be more salary coming to Flyers tho. Something like

Pinto and Kubalik for Frost and 2nd

If Dorion cannot get something done soon, Flyers should bounce.
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I was thinking about this last night. Probably would have to be more salary coming to Flyers tho. Something like

Pinto and Kubalik for Frost and 2nd

If Dorion cannot get something done soon, Flyers should bounce.


Agreed but that makes us have too many forwards so we would probably have to flip Kubalik elsewhere
22 oct. 2023 à 9 h 18
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Quoting: phillyjabroni
100% not an untouchable asset if you took a straw poll from Flyers fans. Only guys that would fall into that category are Michkov and Gauthier. He's projection is more middle-six, complementary scorer rather than some trailblazer maestro in the offensive zone. Wouldn't actively shop him in any deal but also wouldn't pass on trading him for the right price. I would rather keep him and see if he can develop his scoring versus trading for another 200-ft center when they have Couturier/Cates


Thanks for the explanation , good take.
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Agreed but that makes us have too many forwards so we would probably have to flip Kubalik elsewhere


We gotta shed a forward or two at TDL. Foerester and Brink full time in lineup would be ideal. Allison as next up. Gauthier is probably coming next year as well. I'd like to move Atkinson if possible.

Farabee - Coots - Brink
TK - Pinto - Foerster
Laughton - Cates - Tippett

2024:
Farabee - Coots - Brink
TK - Pinto - Forester
Gauthier - Cates - Tippett
22 oct. 2023 à 9 h 42
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Quoting: Renegade_H
I was thinking about this last night. Probably would have to be more salary coming to Flyers tho. Something like

Pinto and Kubalik for Frost and 2nd

If Dorion cannot get something done soon, Flyers should bounce.


Ottawa declines.
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22 oct. 2023 à 10 h 0
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We gotta shed a forward or two at TDL. Foerester and Brink full time in lineup would be ideal. Allison as next up. Gauthier is probably coming next year as well. I'd like to move Atkinson if possible.

Farabee - Coots - Brink
TK - Pinto - Foerster
Laughton - Cates - Tippett

2024:
Farabee - Coots - Brink
TK - Pinto - Forester
Gauthier - Cates - Tippett


Agreed but I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s Laughton moved instead of Atkinson but I think both should probably be gone. I love Laughton but if they can get a 1st for him you have to
22 oct. 2023 à 12 h 13
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I'd be fine with this, but Flyers would definitely need to eat some salary for Ottawa. Maybe Branny now that Staal is hurt. Either Kubalik or Brannstrom would likely come as a part of it.
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