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Lineup without Pinto

Créé par: csick
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 24 sept. 2023
Publié: 24 sept. 2023
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24 sept. 2023 à 23 h 9
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I know Pinto would make a pretty big difference in how the forward group shapes out but idk this just doesn’t scream playoff team to me
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24 sept. 2023 à 23 h 13
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Quoting: GMDannyB
I know Pinto would make a pretty big difference in how the forward group shapes out but idk this just doesn’t scream playoff team to me


They’re pretty much carried by Stutzle, Tkachuk , Sanderson with strong high end players in Chabot, Chychrun, Giroux, Norris, Batherson, Tarasenko etc .

They should be in a strong position for a playoff spot
24 sept. 2023 à 23 h 17
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They’re pretty much carried by Stutzle, Tkachuk , Sanderson with strong high end players in Chabot, Chychrun, Giroux, Norris, Batherson, Tarasenko etc .

They should be in a strong position for a playoff spot


I mean yeah they will be in contention just because of how weak the Atlantic is this year but I just don’t seem them being able to be more than a wildcard team
24 sept. 2023 à 23 h 18
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I mean yeah they will be in contention just because of how weak the Atlantic is this year but I just don’t seem them being able to be more than a wildcard team


This year they’re not more than that. But next year they’ll have more. 15 mill in cap space to go crazy
25 sept. 2023 à 0 h 5
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That Top-6 and Top-4 is pretty sick and among the best in the NHL, don’t listen to the noise. Greig and Brannstrom are also quite good for the role they‘ll play. Kubalik and Joseph are not perfect but many teams have worse as 8th and 9th forwards… now imagine adding Pinto to all that

Management and coaching is still terrible though, only thing holding them back

When there will be a coaching change, this team will take off seriously and never look back. 100+ pts per season every year
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25 sept. 2023 à 1 h 37
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That Top-6 and Top-4 is pretty sick and among the best in the NHL, don’t listen to the noise. Greig and Brannstrom are also quite good for the role they‘ll play. Kubalik and Joseph are not perfect but many teams have worse as 8th and 9th forwards… now imagine adding Pinto to all that

Management and coaching is still terrible though, only thing holding them back

When there will be a coaching change, this team will take off seriously and never look back. 100+ pts per season every year


So the management that assembled and the coaching that developed that "sick" top 6 and top 4 are terrible?

Dorian and the people he put in place have acquired every player on this team. DJ and his staff have developed them. It's not easy. Just look at teams that whiff on top picks, or even 1OA, because either it was a misjudgment of talent or development.

I don't get fans that say those two are the worst yet praise the product they created. The mental gymnastics they must do to justify that DJ and PD have nothing to do with it.

Are they the best? Nope. But they certainly aren't the worst. I don't see which elite coach is currently available that is miles better than DJ. Shoulda made a play for Cassidy when he was available, but alas, the Melnyk estate would not have ponied up the money for him. And looking at the coaches that were hired this off season, my guess is that not many elite coaches were available.
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25 sept. 2023 à 2 h 41
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Quoting: GMDannyB
I know Pinto would make a pretty big difference in how the forward group shapes out but idk this just doesn’t scream playoff team to me


Looks WAY better than the Flyers lineup 🤣🤣🤣
25 sept. 2023 à 2 h 42
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They’re pretty much carried by Stutzle, Tkachuk , Sanderson with strong high end players in Chabot, Chychrun, Giroux, Norris, Batherson, Tarasenko etc .

They should be in a strong position for a playoff spot


Sens & my Sabres (finally) moving on up
I think our rivalry will grow again
Both teams setting up to be good for a while
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25 sept. 2023 à 13 h 10
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Sens & my Sabres (finally) moving on up
I think our rivalry will grow again
Both teams setting up to be good for a while


in fairness, not like the sabres could go any lower .and theyre cooked once they sign kane and give him top six minutes. Btw fitz u never answered me, how much longer till you're banned here too ya think?
27 sept. 2023 à 16 h 50
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Modifié 27 sept. 2023 à 22 h 22
Quoting: csick
They’re pretty much carried by Stutzle, Tkachuk , Sanderson with strong high end players in Chabot, Chychrun, Giroux, Norris, Batherson, Tarasenko etc .

They should be in a strong position for a playoff spot

Don't sell them short because of all thesse trolls

Sens have 3 Number #1 D-men (Sanderson, Chychrun, Chabot) and 5 first liners (Stutzle, Tkachuk, Norris, Norris, Batherson)

What is crazy is that Tarasenko depending on his health could still be considered a 1st liner (paced for 90 pts in 2021-22)

Edit : lol just realized I already posted something like that. I had left the windown opened but it was to answer someone else

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So the management that assembled and the coaching that developed that "sick" top 6 and top 4 are terrible?

Dorian and the people he put in place have acquired every player on this team. DJ and his staff have developed them. It's not easy. Just look at teams that whiff on top picks, or even 1OA, because either it was a misjudgment of talent or development.

I don't get fans that say those two are the worst yet praise the product they created. The mental gymnastics they must do to justify that DJ and PD have nothing to do with it.

Are they the best? Nope. But they certainly aren't the worst. I don't see which elite coach is currently available that is miles better than DJ. Shoulda made a play for Cassidy when he was available, but alas, the Melnyk estate would not have ponied up the money for him. And looking at the coaches that were hired this off season, my guess is that not many elite coaches were available.

It would took verrrrrry long to explain. Dorion did some good stuff but the Sens have a bright future IN SPITE of Dorion's blunders and continuous mismanagement. The thing is most people don't realize the prospect pool and assets he started with when the rebuild started. I could explain everything but that would take some time...

Look at where most of the pieces we have came from, either from a lottery pick or from a trade from our assets from the previous regime. Also, Trent Mann, the key executive for our drafting this whole time, was hired by Bryan Murray in 2011
 
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