how is he a top 5 C when he spends most of his time at both evens and on the power play on McDavid's wing?

Is anyone suggesting that he isn't?

I honestly don't think Draisaitl is a top 5 center in the league. His results with and away from McDavid are miles apart. He's still a passenger on McDavid's plane rather than someone flying his own. Take Draisaitl off McDavid's team and he's probably not even a 100 point scorer with the same massive defensive issues.

lol awwww, that's cute.

The stats don't lie.

Are you only looking at the stat sheet after games and not actually watching them? Because that would explain your insane opinion.

No, I'm looking at the stat sheet based on who he's played with and when he's scoring those points. Any player who scores more than half his points on the PP should be looked at skeptically. Like a lot of fans will tell you how he's not been playing with McDavid these past few seasons but even then he's still scoring the vast majority of his points while McDavid is on the ice. Why does he only have this kind of success when he's playing with McDavid if he's one of the top centers in the league? It's a question that doesn't have a good answer and if it doesn't have a good answer, the question is 'is he a top center in the league?' is a fair one to be asking.

It's stuff like this that makes me question Draisiatl:



I use the PP stats because that's where the majority of Draisaitl's points are scored. The overall stats aren't much better.

a teams power play drops when best player is removed from it shocker

a teams power play drops when best player is removed from it shocker

By 10%? That's a much bigger difference than what happens with other teams. Again, if Draisaitl is a top 5 center in the league ... why isn't he picking up the slack? Draisaitl only has this kind of success when playing with McDavid and if that is so, how is he a top center in the league?

What you're seeing there is the difference between the 1st unit, with McDavid and Draisaitl on it, and the 2nd unit. This isn't a Draisaitl on/off number.

Stats can lie if you don't know what you're looking at.

By 10%? That's a much bigger difference than what happens with other teams. Again, if Draisaitl is a top 5 center in the league ... why isn't he picking up the slack? Draisaitl only has this kind of success when playing with McDavid and if that is so, how is he a top center in the league?

what's oilers power play percentage with out Leon

22.2%

The basic question remains depite all this strawmanning about specific stats I've used. Draisaitl's stats are night and day for when he's playing without McDavid and with. If that is so, how can we call him a top center in the league?

No, those are numbers taken from games McDavid misses vs when he plays. Sorry to tell you but I do know what I'm look at.

22.2%

The basic question remains depite all this strawmanning about specific stats I've used. Draisaitl's stats are night and day for when he's playing without McDavid and with. If that is so, how can we call him a top center in the league?

You seem to be focusing solely on the PP, or rather a very minor part of the overall hockey game. And you can use stats to skew any argument, it's really more about watching how Drai effects the play on the ice, basically every time he is on it.

Drai is easily a top 5 center in the league, it's not really debatable. But if you'd like to share your top 5 that would be cool.