I dont think Columbus trades Fantilli at all tbh

Fantilli being outspoken about his desire to be drafted by Columbus and the group of Michigan guys that they've assembled pretty much makes him untradeable for the foreseeable future.

First, Vancouver doesn't HAVE to trade Pettersson. He's under contract for one more year, and then is a RFA, so the Canucks really have control of him for two years.
No matter how you looking at the trade, at least right now Pettersson has two years of control to any team that has him, so from that view it's a big overpayment by CBJ.

Fantilli and Jiricek are pretty much off the table unless it is McDavid coming to town. Might be a slight exaggeration, but I really don't see any scenario in which they are moved. Columbus offer, assuming Petterson wants out and would sign long term in Columbus, would be something like the following:

Johnson
2024 1st
Sillinger / Boqvist
Cuelemans / Matechyuk

I never said they HAD to trade anyone, I said IF he refuses to sign long term. I think it's unlikely that EP doesn't sign long term in Vancouver, I also think it's unlikely Vancouver waits until the end of his RFA status to move him if he's unwilling to extend before hand. Obviously no team is going to pay the assets that Vancouver would want for EP unless he is signed long term... which is why I said in my last comment that EP would have to be willing to sign long term in Columbus. If you followed the criteria of this hypothetical situation and still believe it's an overpayment then you and I disagree.

I mean that's not the worst offer I have seen for EP, but I would assume that gets beat if he were on the market and willing to sign long term with an acquiring team.

"IF Vancouver had to trade EP". Sorry that was your title. But even if not willing to sign long term with the Canucks, that isn't necessarily a reason to trade him. Lots of teams have upcoming UFA and some good ones, but they don't feel obliged to trade them.
Gee, so many Leaf fans are in a panic because Nylander hasn't been resigned, and they think he HAS to be traded for that reason. Gee, Bertuzzi, Domi, Samsonov, Klingberg are in the same situation and I see no panic for those guys to be traded.

If Sillinger rebounds like I am expecting him to after a sophomore slump, then I think this is one of the better offers that will be available, unless something like the Laine - PLD swap happens again. If no other star is demanding out, then I think this offer has to be competitive.

I actually don't think the value of your proposal is all that far off, I actually think your value is comparable to the trade I posted. The difference is I think Vancouver would want and should target a player that projects as highly likely to turn into a 1C. Vancouvers best C prospect is Raaty and he likely turns into a bottom six center, and since this team refuses to rebuild it may be a very long time before they draft a player with highly probable 1C upside.

The question is would an ANA CHI CBJ NJD SEA or MTL be willing to give up that young 1C or would they want to sit on their eggs and wait for them to hatch?

I ain't buying it.

Of course that's the question, and I think it depends on the team. A team like Columbus that wants to compete now and is really only a 1C away from being a good bet to make the playoffs probably seriously considers it. From a value perspective I think it's pretty solid for Columbus. As said earlier the hope is for Fantilli to become a franchise center, EP is already one so unless Fantilli becomes a top 3 center in the league it's highly unlikely Columbus loses this trade as many already have EP as a top 5 center, at worst he's a top 10, in my opinion it's Vancouver taking the risk in this deal. Maybe DAL with johnson to push them forward.

I don't think ANA, CHI or MTL are quite there yet, NJD are already well positioned at C and a sure bet to make the playoffs, SEA may be an option.

Columbus i think is going to be more patient. Fantilli has a higher ceiling than Petty and Jarmo is willing to wait. Fantilli's timeline fits well into the timeline for the rest of our prospects to so i don't think the jackets would bite. I'm trying to think of another team with a young C that would be willing to make this move and the only one i can come up with would be SEA maybe with Bernie but I'm not even sure there.

I mean I respect your opinion and appreciate you stating it respectfully. I disagree Fantilli has a higher ceiling than EP, but I do think he has just as high a ceiling, it's just he's not guaranteed to get there where EP is already there.

I mean I respect your opinion and appreciate you stating it respectfully. I disagree Fantilli has a higher ceiling than EP, but I do think he has just as high a ceiling, it's just he's not guaranteed to get there where EP is already there.