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Parlaying Pesce and Necas Into a 40 Goal Scorer

Créé par: Hockyluv21
Équipe: 2023-24 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 31 août 2023
Publié: 31 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
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CAR
  1. Rosén, Isak
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
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CAR
  1. Kempe, Adrian
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Motive: Opens cap space for Hellebuyck while not losing a ton of offense. Canes get their goal scorer.
LAK
  1. Necas, Martin
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 18
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That Kempe trade is definitely one of the more interesting deals I've seen on here
31 août 2023 à 16 h 19
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Interesting.
31 août 2023 à 16 h 21
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Without extension in place, no way Buffalo does that. Even with extension might be a little rich, but not aggressively so.
31 août 2023 à 16 h 22
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Without extension in place, no way Buffalo does that. Even with extension might be a little rich, but not aggressively so.


The Pesce trade assumes an agreed extension. I just didn't write it down.
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 23
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Why would LA do that?
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 24
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I mean I get the Kempe deal but 40 goals and signed at that cap hit for 3 more years I don't think LA moves that.
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 30
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I mean I get the Kempe deal but 40 goals and signed at that cap hit for 3 more years I don't think LA moves that.


My thought behind the Kempe for Necas idea was that everybody simultaneously gets something and gives up something. LA gets cap space for a big goalie add (potentially Hellebuyck) and an extra season of team control, but also loses some goal-scoring. Canes lose a season of team control (Necas has 3 RFA seasons remaining before age 27) but gains a 40 goal scorer at a good cap hit. The goal-scorer premium means that the Canes give up the 1st.
31 août 2023 à 16 h 34
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The Kings aren't trading their first 40 goal scorer in 30 years.
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 45
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What? Am I missing something? Necas just had a better season in terms of production than Kempe did and is 2 years younger... Necas can play center... that's a rather large price to get like 14 more goals. Kempe is one of the few players in the league with speed that can match Necas, but even still, this makes 0 sense for Carolina. 2.5 million in cap space for 14 more goals just doesn't make sense. The entire point would be to add someone in addition to what the Canes have, not swap for what the Canes have.

And this RD is not good enough. DeAngelo in the top 4 should be a crime, relying on a 39 year old Brent Burns to be your premier RD is a major risk.
31 août 2023 à 16 h 47
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What? Am I missing something? Necas just had a better season in terms of production than Kempe did and is 2 years younger... Necas can play center... that's a rather large price to get like 14 more goals. Kempe is one of the few players in the league with speed that can match Necas, but even still, this makes 0 sense for Carolina. 2.5 million in cap space for 14 more goals just doesn't make sense. The entire point would be to add someone in addition to what the Canes have, not swap for what the Canes have.

And this RD is not good enough. DeAngelo in the top 4 should be a crime, relying on a 39 year old Brent Burns to be your premier RD is a major risk.


My original trade idea also swapped Chatfield + PHI 2024 2nd for Matt Roy, but for simplicity's sake, I kept it as Kempe for Necas+1st as the point of discussion. My original idea had the following defensive pairs:

Slavin-Burns
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Skjei-DeAngelo
31 août 2023 à 16 h 49
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
My thought behind the Kempe for Necas idea was that everybody simultaneously gets something and gives up something. LA gets cap space for a big goalie add (potentially Hellebuyck) and an extra season of team control, but also loses some goal-scoring. Canes lose a season of team control (Necas has 3 RFA seasons remaining before age 27) but gains a 40 goal scorer at a good cap hit. The goal-scorer premium means that the Canes give up the 1st.


Arvidsson would be traded for cap space not Kempe.
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 50
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My original trade idea also swapped Chatfield for Matt Roy, but for simplicity's sake, I kept it as Kempe for Necas+1st as the point of discussion.


That makes more sense. I don't get what Roy would do though because he's literally LA Pesce. Same age, same contract issues.

Necas for Kempe doesn't make enough sense. We need production. Kempe's goals are nice, but I'd rather have the younger player with the better point production
31 août 2023 à 16 h 52
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Quoting: Hockeyman_2627
Arvidsson would be traded for cap space not Kempe.


Actually, Arvidsson would be a great fit for the Canes style of play, too; it's just that the role that Kempe would fill (elite goal-scorer) is the single biggest need that Carolina has.
31 août 2023 à 16 h 55
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That makes more sense. I don't get what Roy would do though because he's literally LA Pesce. Same age, same contract issues.

Necas for Kempe doesn't make enough sense. We need production. Kempe's goals are nice, but I'd rather have the younger player with the better point production


I think that Roy is the easier re-signing for Carolina. He likely will not command a 7-8 year contract on the open market in the same way that Pesce will.
31 août 2023 à 20 h 51
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I think that Roy is the easier re-signing for Carolina. He likely will not command a 7-8 year contract on the open market in the same way that Pesce will.


Pesce's also significantly better is the issue. Make no mistake, Pesce's skillset makes him a complete unicorn. Roy is very good, but still asking him to replace Pesce is a mammoth task
31 août 2023 à 21 h 36
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Interesting.


Not without an extension
31 août 2023 à 21 h 37
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The Pesce trade assumes an agreed extension. I just didn't write it down.


Problem with that is Pesce will want more years than the Sabres would wanna give him
 
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