Vancouver isn't trading Pettersson. He's simply untouchable.

Canucks pass. The only way I could see the Canucks consider moving Petey to Buffalo is if they offer one of Cozens/Power/Thompson+ or if they offer Dahlin

Yeah its super sick, bottom 6 forward was a great depth piece for some team last year and getting bottom pair dman at that cap hit is amazing.
I mean some people mightnthink you overpaid for petterson when he's got a 10mil cap hit but that only because they're 100% right.
That move to get a lower 1st back than what you spent to pick nice looking player like mitts is great if only you could get minnie to throw in a cap dump too.
All in all tho adding a 10mil 1st line center who can't get his team near the playoffs to a roster thats full of young talent was really what the sabres needed. Been the buzz all year, if only we had a number 1 center instead of all these prospects and we need to add skill.
Thank god you were paying attention this season.

I agree

OOF

Didn't realize that Vancouver was so so so good and full of young talent.

Also can't wait to see the sabres try to fit Skinner, Thompson, Tuch, Quinn, Cozens, Peterka, Kulich, Savoie, Benson, Rosen, Ostlund, Kisakov, Poltapov, Neuchev, Whalberg all in the top 9 good call on that one.

Lastly, Petterson is a legitimate 2 way stud who scored over 100 points this past year. He is easily worth the 10+ AAV price tag IMO

I agree with what you are both saying, but IF (completely not likely to happen) he didn't wanna commit longterm wouldn't you think that Vancouver would be looking for more of a futures package?

PS - If you posted the same thing about Dahlin I wouldn't be able to wrap my mind around it. So as I know that its like a 0.00001% chance that happens I'm not too worried about the answer

In the very unlikely situation he doesn’t want to extend, it would likely make sense to target futures. But Aquilini will never want to commit to a full rebuild so it would more likely be a trade where we get win now pieces

Assuming Buffalo's first is a top 10 in 2024 and Buff is offering Savoie, Rosen, another 1st and Krebs (although I find him overrated on CF ) and Jok (who is merely is nothing burger in this deal)....

AND, assuming Petey isn't happy with the direction the team is heading, yes this is an offer that would be discussed.

I say 'discussed' because it would be held in a super secret location in the middle of Siberia so no one knows Allvin had discussions about the franchise player, even if he ends up miffed about team direction. It's a lot of talent on the board, especially if the 2024 pick is an early first.

I think Mittelstadt is someone Minnesota would be after if he was cheap. If he scores 60-70 points, he won’t be cheap.

I'd be happy with the Minnesota deal. The Vancouver deal is just too much. That's like 5 firsts and jokiharju.

Vancouver is one of those teams that should be in a rebuild but isn't. So the owner and management wouldn't trade assets unless it make them better for this season

Canucks need quality over quantity. There is no deal to be made that doesn’t include at least one of Dahlin, Thompson, or Power

Is he worth the (essentially) FIVE 1sts that u gave up for him?
Holy hell dude, that’s pretty nuts

Umm are you missing my sarcasm?

I don't see where i say vancover is good ans full of talent.

Im not saying petterson isnt worth 10mil (although i would debate that) only that thry have a 1st line center @ 7 million. They don't "need" petterson and paying 3 1st round prospects that are coming along nicely and buffs next 2 1st seems kinda stupid to double up on 1st line centers and pick up 10mil in salary. Especially when you have actual wholes to fill in the line up. Petterson isnt getting selke votes, he's not known for his team driving leadership, he's average at face offs, and brings np physical presence. In short he's a 1st line center. Thats it. I'd rather have Aho at 9.5. i could probably get close to draisatl on the package being offered here if im looking for guys to break the bank on and spend some of my best assets.
Finally petterson has not gotten his team into the playoffs. No shame in that, most players can't make that big of a differenve for a whole team. Just pointing out he's not one of those players and really not what the sabres need. You wanna trade thompson and a 1st for petterson? I'd talk about that

We'd have to include power or cozens for sure.

I wish people would stop with these.

Teams with their 1C and 2C signed to 7 year contracts don't make this trade. Especially when there are like 6 3C options in the pipeline or on the roster.

Great player, not worth the cost for buffalo

No he is not worth that much, but I think that we need to start differentiating between the value of a first round pick.

If the Sabres 24 1st is somewhere between 17-24 (first round exit), 25 1st is between 24-32 thats way way different than it being top 10 picks. The quality and timeline of players is crazy different in those positions. Rosen was taken 14th overall, and truthfully I like him as a prospect. He is now going into his D+3 without any NHL games and probably doesn't get any this year either tbh which is completely fine because he was a project, but you wouldn't trade say a 20th overall 24 first for him at next years draft I don't think, point being that he may be worth a bit less than Sabres fans are valuing him as. Savoie is really the only blue chip piece. Krebs is a nice defensive bottom 6 C with some attitude (likely SOME untapped offensive potential) and Joki is a toss in very servicable bottom 4 dman who would need a contract.

I agree that this price is likely a bit high on what Petterson would be worth, but lets not pretend like Eichel (who never went over 100 pts in Buffalo) with a serious neck injury didn't get a significant trade package.
projected mid to late first = projected mid to late first
projected mid to late first > projected mid to late second
Savioe > Krebs
Krebs << Tuch
RFA Rights to Joki

I don't wanna trade Thompson and a 1st because we already know who he is as a ~90 point ~40 goal guy at 7Mill AAV long term. I'd wayyy rather move futures

I hear ya, BUT :

1- Vancouver isn’t moving him
2- we aren’t bringing in a $10mil per player

Seems to me that you’re putting a lot of thought into something that has a near zero percent chance of happening

I think that you are likely right, but if the contract fit well with the increasing cap I wouldn't be opposed to adding a young stud center like Petterson. I don't think that any of the top prospects in our system even come close to being what he is. I agree with the sentiment that the cap space could be used elsewhere though.

I'd like to see our analytics staff hit on depth forwards for cheap and get some absolute studs in that top 6 - top 9 though. Personally I don't need Rosen and Nuechev on the fourth line..

I agree with both of these points

I think I'd be disappointed at first with the Vancouver one, but if we won a cup with that group (which I think Petterson would give us a better chance to do personally) I'd get over it pretty quick

Fair, if Buffalo does trade him next offseason as an RFA I'd like to see it be to Minny as he is from there!