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Créé par: fangm
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 9 août 2023
Publié: 9 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LAK
  1. Samsonov, Ilya
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
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NJD
  1. Järnkrok, Calle
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
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TOR
  1. Seeler, Nick (387 500 $ retained)
PHI
  1. Timmins, Conor
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
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TOR
  1. Åman, Nils
  2. Joshua, Dakota (412 500 $ retained)
VAN
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2026 (TOR)
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9 août 2023 à 20 h 35
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Even if the Kings had the cap space to do that trade, that's a very hard no.
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9 août 2023 à 20 h 37
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Ridiculous offer for Siegenthaler. Why would the Devils sell their top pair LD on a great contract for a bottom six forward and an RD due for an expensive new deal? Hard pass
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9 août 2023 à 20 h 39
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I mean sure? No clue why Toronto would do that though
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9 août 2023 à 20 h 41
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Canucks pass.We are in win now not a rebuild.IMHO.
9 août 2023 à 20 h 42
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Canucks take that and run
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9 août 2023 à 20 h 42
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Quoting: remowilliams
Canucks pass.We are in win now not a rebuild.IMHO.


We’d be stupid to not take a 1st rounder for two 4th liners, even with how well Joshua played
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9 août 2023 à 20 h 47
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We’d be stupid to not take a 1st rounder for two 4th liners, even with how well Joshua played


Lets be real. Its not gonna happen.Both players will have better years.Joshua is one of our coaches favorite and Aman has good upside.How does a first two years from now help us today?Imho
9 août 2023 à 20 h 50
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LAK accepts
9 août 2023 à 21 h 2
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Quoting: remowilliams
Lets be real. Its not gonna happen.Both players will have better years.Joshua is one of our coaches favorite and Aman has good upside.How does a first two years from now help us today?Imho


We got Hronek for a first and a second. Use that first and try to acquire someone. Ideally a 3C or a D man
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9 août 2023 à 21 h 10
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Flyers probably accept
9 août 2023 à 21 h 18
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Quoting: Warpbox
We got Hronek for a first and a second. Use that first and try to acquire someone. Ideally a 3C or a D man


Its a 2026 first thats two years from now.Keeping two hard to play against power forwards that are hard to replace is more important for the teams development and step forward in a win now plan. In my opinion.
9 août 2023 à 21 h 39
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Quoting: remowilliams
Its a 2026 first thats two years from now.Keeping two hard to play against power forwards that are hard to replace is more important for the teams development and step forward in a win now plan. In my opinion.


You can easily replace Joshua and Aman, internally Canucks have Di Giuseppe, or there’s still plentiful of options in FA like Suter and Comtois. They’d be stupid to not acquire a first to upgrade at more premium positions for 2 4th line grinders.
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9 août 2023 à 21 h 48
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You can easily replace Joshua and Aman, internally Canucks have Di Giuseppe, or there’s still plentiful of options in FA like Suter and Comtois. They’d be stupid to not acquire a first to upgrade at more premium positions for 2 4th line grinders.


My opinion is still the same. Both players are good hard to play against with some pretty good upside.Why trade two good players for a first Two years from now.Our G.M. Clearly stated they want to win now.
9 août 2023 à 22 h 40
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Leafs fans are funny and dumb.
9 août 2023 à 22 h 41
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Kings aren't trading Byfield (they traded Vilardi instead, remember?) and New Jersey certainly isn't trading Siegenthaler for depth pieces.
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9 août 2023 à 22 h 44
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Quoting: remowilliams
My opinion is still the same. Both players are good hard to play against with some pretty good upside.Why trade two good players for a first Two years from now.Our G.M. Clearly stated they want to win now.


Dude it's a first round pick for two guys with a combined 48 career points, are these two fourth liners that important to a team that finished 22nd last year?
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9 août 2023 à 22 h 54
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Dude it's a first round pick for two guys with a combined 48 career points, are these two fourth liners that important to a team that finished 22nd last year?


ITS MY OPINION.
9 août 2023 à 23 h 25
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This is the best thread ever.

Canucks fans realizing their own are incompetent.

One NJ fan saying Lili is so good he's gonna need to big of a contract while another calls him "depth piece".

Puts all of this in perspective lol. You should all try logging off for a few days.
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10 août 2023 à 1 h 10
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Quoting: remowilliams
Lets be real. Its not gonna happen.Both players will have better years.Joshua is one of our coaches favorite and Aman has good upside.How does a first two years from now help us today?Imho


You can use that pick to trade for a better player lol. Come on noe
10 août 2023 à 6 h 47
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Quoting: Juiceman
You can use that pick to trade for a better player lol. Come on noe


When someone has an opinion on here.Back off i have my own opinion its not the same as yours but its MY OPINION.Makes zero sense to me to make this trade.I live for today tomorrow may never come.What if we wait 2 years any that pick turns out to be a dud then what.Both players are good players why trade to good players you know for a first in 2 years.100% My opinion.no need to try changing my opinion.Thanx for your input.
10 août 2023 à 6 h 52
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Quoting: fangm
This is the best thread ever.

Canucks fans realizing their own are incompetent.

One NJ fan saying Lili is so good he's gonna need to big of a contract while another calls him "depth piece".

Puts all of this in perspective lol. You should all try logging off for a few days.


Quoting: fangm
This is the best thread ever.

Canucks fans realizing their own are incompetent.

One NJ fan saying Lili is so good he's gonna need to big of a contract while another calls him "depth piece".

Puts all of this in perspective lol. You should all try logging off for a few days.


Coming from you thats rich.You are one of those self named experts who thinks they really know no more than anyone else on here except its in your own mind.
10 août 2023 à 18 h 27
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Quoting: remowilliams
Coming from you thats rich.You are one of those self named experts who thinks they really know no more than anyone else on here except its in your own mind.


2 points:

1. I work in the league.
2. Check my "predictions" and see how many have been right.

I was crucified for saying Karlsson would return nothing (spoiler he did). I was crucified for saying Sandin and Liligren would fetch a 1st+ (spoiler Sandin did and Lili would). I was crucified for saying Dubois would get Vilardi+ (Spoiler he did).

Yes I joke around a bit and poke the bear but when I say that Brodie would fetch a good return it's cause I've seen the analytics teams pay $100k+ for and they show him as the top defensive D in the league. Every public model also has him top 3 so when you guys say he is worthless it's just funny to me as someone with more knowledge.

Like Seeler for Timmins gets zero backlash here. Did you know most analytics systems have Seeler ranked as the 8th best Defensive D in the league? Mark my words if he doesnt move this summer and has a good year he will be that guy nobody knows about going for a 2nd/3rd at the deadline.

Timmins also has decent value, biggest problem with him is waiver status.

Sillinger has almost no value cause he loses his waivers exemption soon so teams need to know he can crack a top 6.

Lots of stuff I know that you don't.
10 août 2023 à 19 h 53
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Quoting: fangm
2 points:

1. I work in the league.
2. Check my "predictions" and see how many have been right.

I was crucified for saying Karlsson would return nothing (spoiler he did). I was crucified for saying Sandin and Liligren would fetch a 1st+ (spoiler Sandin did and Lili would). I was crucified for saying Dubois would get Vilardi+ (Spoiler he did).

Yes I joke around a bit and poke the bear but when I say that Brodie would fetch a good return it's cause I've seen the analytics teams pay $100k+ for and they show him as the top defensive D in the league. Every public model also has him top 3 so when you guys say he is worthless it's just funny to me as someone with more knowledge.

Like Seeler for Timmins gets zero backlash here. Did you know most analytics systems have Seeler ranked as the 8th best Defensive D in the league? Mark my words if he doesnt move this summer and has a good year he will be that guy nobody knows about going for a 2nd/3rd at the deadline.

Timmins also has decent value, biggest problem with him is waiver status.

Sillinger has almost no value cause he loses his waivers exemption soon so teams need to know he can crack a top 6.

Lots of stuff I know that you don't.


My dads bigger than yours grow up.Theres an old saying.If you cant beat them with your brilliance dont baffle them with your B.S. My opinion still stands.mooooving on.
10 août 2023 à 20 h 52
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Quoting: remowilliams
When someone has an opinion on here.Back off i have my own opinion its not the same as yours but its MY OPINION.Makes zero sense to me to make this trade.I live for today tomorrow may never come.What if we wait 2 years any that pick turns out to be a dud then what.Both players are good players why trade to good players you know for a first in 2 years.100% My opinion.no need to try changing my opinion.Thanx for your input.


They could immediately trade that 1st round pick into a better player. Literally like they did with Horvat. Traded for a 1st and used that for Hronek… Joshua is great, but you don’t turn down a first round pick for him
10 août 2023 à 20 h 53
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Quoting: fangm
2 points:

1. I work in the league.
2. Check my "predictions" and see how many have been right.

I was crucified for saying Karlsson would return nothing (spoiler he did). I was crucified for saying Sandin and Liligren would fetch a 1st+ (spoiler Sandin did and Lili would). I was crucified for saying Dubois would get Vilardi+ (Spoiler he did).

Yes I joke around a bit and poke the bear but when I say that Brodie would fetch a good return it's cause I've seen the analytics teams pay $100k+ for and they show him as the top defensive D in the league. Every public model also has him top 3 so when you guys say he is worthless it's just funny to me as someone with more knowledge.

Like Seeler for Timmins gets zero backlash here. Did you know most analytics systems have Seeler ranked as the 8th best Defensive D in the league? Mark my words if he doesnt move this summer and has a good year he will be that guy nobody knows about going for a 2nd/3rd at the deadline.

Timmins also has decent value, biggest problem with him is waiver status.

Sillinger has almost no value cause he loses his waivers exemption soon so teams need to know he can crack a top 6.

Lots of stuff I know that you don't.


If you worked in the league, then you’d probably have better things to do than argue with strangers on a forum… go back to doing your job
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