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Créé par: WN88
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 9 août 2023
Publié: 9 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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TOR
  1. Coronato, Matthew
  2. Mangiapane, Andrew
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (FLA)
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TOR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (COL)
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9 août 2023 à 18 h 37
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As a flames fan I like it if pick is top 10 protected and comes with extension
9 août 2023 à 18 h 46
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Seems like a lot to me. I thought Nylander would go for a package similar to what Debrincat got when he went from Chicago to Ottawa last year, but a beefed up version of that. So a high reasonably high 1st (or equivalent prospect), plus a 2nd and 3rd.
9 août 2023 à 18 h 51
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It’s no secret Leafs ACGM peeps have been trading some people to Avs for them to get under cap. I’ve seen mostly Jarnkrok, Lafferty, and recently Timmins. (Let’s cut the crap on the Nylander/Toews stuff please lol). But I’m so down for Jarnkrok. Avs have a glaring hole at 3RW, and he’d solidify a good line with Wood and Colton. The domino effect of pushing LOC back to his better suited 4th line and Olofsson out of the lineup too. So yes. You got a deal from this Avs fan.
9 août 2023 à 18 h 55
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9 août 2023 à 19 h 9
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I don't why the Flames would give up so much for a one year rental. In effect two firsts and Mango.
There is no such thing as an extension as Cup contending teams NEVER allow players to negotiate with other teams, one full season away from an expiring contract .,
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9 août 2023 à 19 h 9
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Quoting: ISUAvsFan45
It’s no secret Leafs ACGM peeps have been trading some people to Avs for them to get under cap. I’ve seen mostly Jarnkrok, Lafferty, and recently Timmins. (Let’s cut the crap on the Nylander/Toews stuff please lol). But I’m so down for Jarnkrok. Avs have a glaring hole at 3RW, and he’d solidify a good line with Wood and Colton. The domino effect of pushing LOC back to his better suited 4th line and Olofsson out of the lineup too. So yes. You got a deal from this Avs fan.


Other Avs fans wouldn’t be too kind about this proposal 😂
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9 août 2023 à 19 h 11
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I don't why the Flames would give up so much for a one year rental. In effect two firsts and Mango.
There is no such thing as an extension as Cup contending teams NEVER allow players to negotiate with other teams, one full season away from an expiring contract .,


Never heard that one before. Thanks.
9 août 2023 à 19 h 17
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No thank you from this Flames fan. The only way for the Flames to keep Nylander is to overpay. That doesn't guarantee Lindholm re-signing, or him having chemistry with Lindholm and Huberdeau etc.

Meanwhile, Coronato, and the future first are guaranteed cost controlled assets. A year of Nylander is not worth it to a team with a largely uncertain future.
9 août 2023 à 20 h 3
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Calgary would be open to a hockey trade for Nylander but nothing involving their high end ELC's. They aren't in a position to gamble the future on Nylander being the solution. Especially at the cost of loosing a valuable 2nd line winger in Mangiapane too
9 août 2023 à 20 h 11
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Other Avs fans wouldn’t be too kind about this proposal 😂


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Other Avs fans wouldn’t be too kind about this proposal 😂


We’re getting an analytically sound, cheapish Swiss Army knife. I have no complaints. Plus we aren’t exactly great at drafting outside the third round although that could be taking a turn for the better. Need to keep our window open as long as possible and this trade helps it.
9 août 2023 à 20 h 41
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Calgary isn't trading that 1st. It's protection for the 1st they gave up to dump Monahan's contract. As good as Nylander is, I just don't see a scenario where Calgary wins that trade. It just creates new problems. I could see Mangiapane as part of the deal, but they need to restock a decimated prospect pipeline to manage the cap issues BT created in his last year.
9 août 2023 à 21 h 58
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Quoting: ISUAvsFan45
We’re getting an analytically sound, cheapish Swiss Army knife. I have no complaints. Plus we aren’t exactly great at drafting outside the third round although that could be taking a turn for the better. Need to keep our window open as long as possible and this trade helps it.


The problem isn’t Jarnkrok, who I’m down for. The problem is that we’re also tight to the cap. Spending $2.1M obviously isn’t game changing, but that pretty much guarantees that we go into the season with Jack Johnson as an every night defenseman. I’d rather add two cheap depth options and evaluate a player like Jarnkrok in the event Drouin is bad still.

Also, I feel like Toronto’s cap situation will make the return less than a 3rd.

So overall: I’m mostly down, but would have some hesitation that the Avs are making a move that limits their ability to address other roster holes.
9 août 2023 à 22 h 33
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Quoting: Dr_Invictus
Calgary isn't trading that 1st. It's protection for the 1st they gave up to dump Monahan's contract. As good as Nylander is, I just don't see a scenario where Calgary wins that trade. It just creates new problems. I could see Mangiapane as part of the deal, but they need to restock a decimated prospect pipeline to manage the cap issues BT created in his last year.


decimated pipeline? You guys have as high as 4 elc's on the roster next year?
9 août 2023 à 22 h 52
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We’re getting an analytically sound, cheapish Swiss Army knife. I have no complaints. Plus we aren’t exactly great at drafting outside the third round although that could be taking a turn for the better. Need to keep our window open as long as possible and this trade helps it.


Quoting: turtlemountain
The problem isn’t Jarnkrok, who I’m down for. The problem is that we’re also tight to the cap. Spending $2.1M obviously isn’t game changing, but that pretty much guarantees that we go into the season with Jack Johnson as an every night defenseman. I’d rather add two cheap depth options and evaluate a player like Jarnkrok in the event Drouin is bad still.

Also, I feel like Toronto’s cap situation will make the return less than a 3rd.

So overall: I’m mostly down, but would have some hesitation that the Avs are making a move that limits their ability to address other roster holes.


Yeah, it’s not Jarnkrok. I’d add him for a fourth, but he takes up all the cap. Would prefer a cheap depth D and one depth forward to push the Meyers, Foudys, etc for 4th line spots for the $2M we have left. Or hold on and see what Drouin and Ryjo actually look like if a bigger move is needed. Hope not.
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10 août 2023 à 17 h 13
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decimated pipeline? You guys have as high as 4 elc's on the roster next year?


Coronato, Pelletier, Ruzicka, and Dueher are NHL ready, with the latter two being bottom 6 projections. Wolf and Coronato are our best prospects. Beyond that we only have one Center who could make the jump (Zary) and one defenseman (Poirier).
 
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