Detroit declines, not trading for a rental.

Not good; trading elite def dman in Brodie for the human pylon that takes penalties - pass. As you say - makes no sense to move Willy, even less for this pile

I don't understand why Toronto MUST get Karlsson? Sharks aren't retaining 5.25 mil on EK65. Hehe

Mike Grier would like to remain employed. Quantity for quality trade won't cut it.

Nylander trade isn't happening either. Leafs are competing for a Cup. Not making their team worse for the present.

3 years of Chiarot for 1 year of Brodie, Detroit passes. Even Yzerman isn't that dumb.

WHAT. WHAT.
Chiarot is HORRIBLE. HORRIBLE. idc what anyone else even tries to say every part of his game is bad, his production is bad, analytics bad. That deal is so bad. If you can get out of it, do it. Even if it costs a 2nd.

Brodie isnt elite but hes way better than Chiarot... way better.

I don't think they should trade Willie... unless they were getting EK65... Sharks wouldnt eat all of it... just a small portion... I've read CHI is willing to eat some as part of a deal. That was the deal... EK to CHI, then to TOR... SJ retains 2M, CHI the rest... only way I trade Nylander is to make EK65 a reality... otherwise, im keeping him... AND you dont even need to trade Willy to make that happen... I'd trade Brodie and his $5M and try to make it work...

Now ask Yzerman and lalonde plus the leaders in detroits locker room how they feel about him and it's the opposite of what casual fans say.

Exactly. There's reasons why Yzerman signed Chiarot. But the CFACGM geniuses know more than he does. Hehe

I'm not a Chiarot fan and yes he's overpaid. But fans acting like he's the worst D in the NHL making 10 mil AAV need to cut the hyperbole. Any D with a pulse today signing a UFA contract is getting at least 3 mil.

Remember when OEL was making almost 8 mil AAV? But let's freak out about Chiarot's 3 years left at 4.75 mil. You'd think it was the worst contract in NHL history.

This is the most sensible take on this website

Why thank you! 🙂

LMAOOO blindly following the team is so smart.

CHIAROT SUCKS. That isnt some subjective statement. Analytically, he sucks. He has objectively below replacement level stats!

Horrible take. Typical sheep. Baaahhh

Only analytics matter! 🥱

Is Chiarot good? No. Does Detroit need to get rid of him? Also no.
Trading Chiarot for Brodie doesn't change the fact that they will probably still be the 7th best team in the Atlantic, so why waste the draft capital?

Production? Sucks. Analytics? Suck.

What should I judge him by then? Is "leadership", a subjective concept worth 3 years at 4.75? Seriously?

He is bad on the ice, and makes a lot. I would rather go sign someone for cheap than him. Like even someone on waivers like Valimaki wouldve been way better. Even someone like Oesterle or Hutton. Anyone for cheap is way better bro.

And im the sheep? Youre the one blindly supporting the team. I have the guts to speak my mind. I dotn blindly follow my GM. I dont think Horvat is very good or worth more than 5 mil. Barzal is overpaid. Im not an idiot

It does free up 4.75 in the next 2 years after this one all at the cost of just a 2nd, which doesnt do much for them. Sign someone better than Chiarot for 1 mil and thats an extra 3.75 mil to use!

Which is all well and good, and if Detroit actually needed the cap space, then I'd be all for it. But they don't, so I'd rather take a chance on getting another Wallinder/Buchelnikov type prospect instead of a roster spot that won't be filled by a prospect, and cap space they don't need.

Yeah cause I watch sports for analytics that doesn't even track correctly. Keep looking at those players cards instead of actually watching the player. Probably one of the stupidest takes I've ever seen. Analytics in hockey doesn't work, or at least right now the ones they are using are phony. Pathetic take budinsky, I'll continue to watch the sport I love and not degrade it with stupid pointless worthless baseball style analytics that clearly don't show how hockey players are.

P.s. If the gm, head coach and top players love the player, he's not going anywhere

The guy doesn't know anything about the nhl, he looks up player cards and thinks he knows the ins and outs of other teams based on it. He's the type of fan the nhl should ask to politely stop watching the sport because he would ruin it with his nonsense

The guys a used car salesman. Don't even respond to him anymore, I know I won't be, this guy literally reads the back of a card and thinks that's how hockey works, typical not real fan

That's what I'm thinking too.

LMAOOO guess i found the wrong side of this website.

Sad that objective data is so frowned upon….

The funny thing is like this isn’t a debate. There’s a strong correlation between success and positive advanced analytics! I don’t need guys on a website to validate me because I KNOW OBJECTIVELY I am correct. This isn’t like a debate where either side can win. I know I’m right! Have a good night, Boys!

And guess what? This is better for that. Wallinder, who I love as a prospect, needs another year. So one year of Brodie is a great transition since they’re both (should be) on the left side