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Selling the rentals

Créé par: Jets12Kozy
Équipe: 2023-24 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 2 août 2023
Publié: 2 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1900 000 $
Transactions
1.
WPG
  1. Granlund, Mikael
  2. Pickering, Owen
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
If the penguins win 2 playoff rounds in 2024, 25 2nd becomes 1st rounder
PIT
2.
WPG
  1. Campbell, Jack
  2. McLeod, Ryan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2026 (EDM)
3.
WPG
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
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AD, C
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
C
RFA - 2
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C, AD
UFA - 2
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
C
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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RFA - 2
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RFA - 2
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
AG
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900 000 $900 000 $
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2 août 2023 à 20 h 37
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Sorry, but that is a terrible return for Helle. I would argue that's just slightly more than it would cost to dump Campbell alone, let alone acquire Helle
2 août 2023 à 20 h 42
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Canucks pass still/ again. NO Cap.
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2 août 2023 à 20 h 43
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Every single team says no nobody is gonna overpay for rentals
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2 août 2023 à 20 h 45
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Good lord no lol.

a 1st, conditional second and the pens best prospect for rentals?

Penguins don't really have a need for Schmidt so drop him. I'd be happy to take Scheifele for the year but not at that price lol
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2 août 2023 à 20 h 46
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Canucks aren’t paying a 2nd for a 4th line winger and an AHL level dman
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2 août 2023 à 20 h 47
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Sorry, but that is a terrible return for Helle. I would argue that's just slightly more than it would cost to dump Campbell alone, let alone acquire Helle


That would be the biggest overpay of all time the jets would do that as fast as they could
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2 août 2023 à 21 h 2
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Don't want Schmidt or the draft bust, but Scheifele is a possibility
2 août 2023 à 21 h 3
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Quoting: JKCpp
That would be the biggest overpay of all time the jets would do that as fast as they could


Lol 2 mid 1sts for a 3 time vezina finalist? Get real. Campbell is as negative of an asset as you can get
2 août 2023 à 21 h 7
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Canucks aren’t paying a 2nd for a 4th line winger and an AHL level dman


They might..
2 août 2023 à 21 h 7
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Don't want Schmidt or the draft bust, but Scheifele is a possibility


Draft bust?
2 août 2023 à 21 h 9
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Quoting: pens1991
Good lord no lol.

a 1st, conditional second and the pens best prospect for rentals?

Penguins don't really have a need for Schmidt so drop him. I'd be happy to take Scheifele for the year but not at that price lol


You're dumping Granlund and getting retention, you're not getting Scheifele for less than a 1st and Pickering. Pickering being the penguins "best" propsect doesnt change his value to the rest of the league
2 août 2023 à 21 h 11
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Quoting: Smjth
Sorry, but that is a terrible return for Helle. I would argue that's just slightly more than it would cost to dump Campbell alone, let alone acquire Helle


What kind of return are you expecting...
2 août 2023 à 21 h 14
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You're dumping Granlund and getting retention, you're not getting Scheifele for less than a 1st and Pickering. Pickering being the penguins "best" propsect doesnt change his value to the rest of the league


You can keep him
2 août 2023 à 21 h 16
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You can keep him


You're right and we will if we don't get his value back
2 août 2023 à 21 h 39
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Holy overpayments! Winnipeg fans are so delusional since the unexpected return for Dubois
2 août 2023 à 21 h 44
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Canucks aren’t paying a 2nd for a 4th line winger and an AHL level dman


Hey now, that 4th liner is a 3rd line staple for the Jets... 😁
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2 août 2023 à 21 h 52
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Lol 2 mid 1sts for a 3 time vezina finalist? Get real. Campbell is as negative of an asset as you can get

That's a massive overpay by Edmonton. Hellebuyck is a rental and has never won anything on the playoffs, he isn't getting effectively 3 first round picks. McLeod is a critical part of the Oilers team going forward at 3C, expecting him plus 2 firsts is just ludicrous. Campbell would only be included so the cap works.
2 août 2023 à 21 h 54
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That's a massive overpay by Edmonton. Hellebuyck is a rental and has never won anything on the playoffs, he isn't getting effectively 3 first round picks. McLeod is a critical part of the Oilers team going forward at 3C, expecting him plus 2 firsts is just ludicrous. Campbell would only be included so the cap works.


Let's not act like Edmonton is loving that Campbell contract...
3 août 2023 à 3 h 9
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Quoting: CD282
That's a massive overpay by Edmonton. Hellebuyck is a rental and has never won anything on the playoffs, he isn't getting effectively 3 first round picks. McLeod is a critical part of the Oilers team going forward at 3C, expecting him plus 2 firsts is just ludicrous. Campbell would only be included so the cap works.


A massive overpay, really? Name one team that would take on Campbells contract for less than a 1st?
Then it's a third line center + 1st round pick for Hellebuyck, who actually have won way more games in the playoffs than Campbell ever has.
What do you even mean with "has never won anything in the playoffs", a cup? Because that applies to most goalies in the league.
And the "effectively 3 first round picks", can you explain that aswell?
3 août 2023 à 3 h 12
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That would be the biggest overpay of all time the jets would do that as fast as they could


Sorry but you're exaggerating worse than I thought possible.
3 août 2023 à 3 h 15
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They might..


No, they won't. Don't be ridiculous
3 août 2023 à 3 h 16
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Hey now, that 4th liner is a 3rd line staple for the Jets... 😁


And what are the Jets? A coin flip playoff team at best. I mean, I suppose the same can be said about the Canucks, but they have stronger winger depth than the Jets
3 août 2023 à 8 h 14
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A massive overpay, really? Name one team that would take on Campbells contract for less than a 1st?
Then it's a third line center + 1st round pick for Hellebuyck, who actually have won way more games in the playoffs than Campbell ever has.
What do you even mean with "has never won anything in the playoffs", a cup? Because that applies to most goalies in the league.
And the "effectively 3 first round picks", can you explain that aswell?


McLeod is the most valuable piece in that trade. He's 23, big, fast, scored at a 2nd line rate at 5v5 without having played with McDavid or Draisaitl, good on the PK, can PP (although doesn't get much opportunity in Edmonton as they barely play PP2), and is good defensively. And signed to a very good contract.

Honestly I'd rather have 2+ years of McLeod over 3 months of whatever improvement Hellebuyck is over Stuart Skinner.
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3 août 2023 à 9 h 45
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Pens don't really have a need for Schmidt anymore - and definitely don't have the cap space for this trade
3 août 2023 à 11 h 35
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Going into the season with so many pending UFA's scares me. Best case scenario is the jets do well, keep the players past the deadline and compete for the cup. Worst case is they hold on and lose them for nothing or guys get injured or a combo of both. Part of me hopes the jets struggle and guys like Bucky, Scheifle, Nino, Demelo and Dillon can be sold off at the deadline for the best possible deals. It's scary...the jets are playing a dangerous game with players and fans
Ideally i would like Scheifle and Dillon traded before the season starts; have Bucky, Nino and Demelo resign.
Need to make room for young D and hope that a combo of Vilardi, Perfetti and Nameskov can fill the role of 1C
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