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Créé par: Rocket_Rusty
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 28 juill. 2023
Publié: 28 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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UFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
11 500 000 $
11 500 000 $
11 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
CAR
  1. Lindholm, Elias (2 425 000 $ retained)
2.
CGY
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Campbell, Jack
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Backlund, Mikael (2 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Hanifin, Noah (2 475 000 $ retained)
3.
CGY
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
4.
CGY
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
5.
CGY
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NSH)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
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5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
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UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
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UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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900 833 $900 833 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
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RFA - 3
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855 833 $855 833 $
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RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
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4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
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UFA - 2
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG/DD
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UFA - 8
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813 333 $813 333 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
G
RFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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823 333 $823 333 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
DG
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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28 juill. 2023 à 21 h 26
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i think it calgary will want more for Lindy.
28 juill. 2023 à 21 h 32
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No, just no to all of it.
28 juill. 2023 à 21 h 32
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You're asking for basically 2 1sts for Lindholm? No thanks... he's a 60 point forward whose great defensively. With that logic, Teuvo Teravainen should net this kind of return... I like Lindholm, but he's so overrated on here
28 juill. 2023 à 21 h 38
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That is one sick set of centers you got lined up there. Assuming you're just clowning around. Eric Staal be like "I'm a 1C again." Paul Statsny be like "Hey...".
28 juill. 2023 à 21 h 43
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Obvious Habs fan is obvious.
28 juill. 2023 à 21 h 49
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Quoting: Caniac2000
You're asking for basically 2 1sts for Lindholm? No thanks... he's a 60 point forward whose great defensively. With that logic, Teuvo Teravainen should net this kind of return... I like Lindholm, but he's so overrated on here


That's the going rate for top centers.
28 juill. 2023 à 21 h 55
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NSH declines. NSH is not interested in Tanev because defense already has a logjam and Dube is not worth a 1st and 2nd, especially when those will likely be in the top half of those rounds.
28 juill. 2023 à 21 h 59
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Quoting: Shaun80
That's the going rate for top centers.


As determined by the Nazem Kadri trade! No... Hmm, let's see. Bo Horvat! No, and Horvat was probably more valuable at the time... Schiefele? Maybe, but I'd argue Schiefele will get more (even though he shouldn't) because of his goal scoring...
28 juill. 2023 à 22 h 4
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This is funny
28 juill. 2023 à 22 h 34
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Quoting: Caniac2000
As determined by the Nazem Kadri trade! No... Hmm, let's see. Bo Horvat! No, and Horvat was probably more valuable at the time... Schiefele? Maybe, but I'd argue Schiefele will get more (even though he shouldn't) because of his goal scoring...


Horvat pretty much went for 2 1sts and a 2nd. And Dubas is an idiot.
28 juill. 2023 à 22 h 47
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Pretty easy “No” from the Sabres

We aren’t paying a 2nd, for a 3rd pair guy
That’s ridiculous
28 juill. 2023 à 23 h 4
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
Pretty easy “No” from the Sabres

We aren’t paying a 2nd, for a 3rd pair guy
That’s ridiculous


I think zadorov is worth like a 2nd and a half, if that makes sense. If he added a 3rd going back with Zadorov would that work?
28 juill. 2023 à 23 h 30
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Quoting: Shaun80
I think zadorov is worth like a 2nd and a half, if that makes sense. If he added a 3rd going back with Zadorov would that work?


Probably not,
as we already have 9 “nhl” defensemen

Sure, Zadorov is an upgrade on our LD3
But i don’t see us giving up a 2nd for a “rental”
Maybe a 3rd?
But even then, we’d (most likely) have to get rid of some of the excess defensemen we already have first
28 juill. 2023 à 23 h 49
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Horvat pretty much went for 2 1sts and a 2nd. And Dubas is an idiot.


Dubas is an idiot tears of joy I'm not even disagreeing or laughing at you, that just made me physically laugh. Thank you needed that, been a rough day.

Horvat went for a 1st, Raty and Beauvillier. You can argue Beauvillier's cap is worth the same as the retention on Lindholm I guess, but I'd also argue Horvat was having a much better year than Lindholm is coming off of. Obviously that died in New York, but the Canucks were selling unbelievably high during a contract year
29 juill. 2023 à 0 h 30
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Quoting: Caniac2000
You're asking for basically 2 1sts for Lindholm? No thanks... he's a 60 point forward whose great defensively. With that logic, Teuvo Teravainen should net this kind of return... I like Lindholm, but he's so overrated on here

Edmonton fan here teravainen doesn’t belong in the same sentence as lindholm
29 juill. 2023 à 6 h 4
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Yeah can't see Buffalo doing this, we already cornered the market on bottom pair D, we have like 6 already.
29 juill. 2023 à 9 h 31
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Sabres are elite
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Backlund 50% retained gets a 1st/2nd + prospect. Hanifin same idea, perhaps a bit more since he's younger. Dumping Campbell costs a 1st + prospect. There is a massive deficiency of value in that Edmonton trade.
29 juill. 2023 à 12 h 31
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Edmonton fan here teravainen doesn’t belong in the same sentence as lindholm


In what world? They're both 60 point players, same age, both excellent defensively. Lindholm is overrated because of his totals when his wingers were 2 of the best in the league. Lindholm on his own line is a 60 point guy. Teuvo on his own is a 60 point guy.
29 juill. 2023 à 15 h 10
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In what world? They're both 60 point players, same age, both excellent defensively. Lindholm is overrated because of his totals when his wingers were 2 of the best in the league. Lindholm on his own line is a 60 point guy. Teuvo on his own is a 60 point guy.


One plays centre, one has got over 75 points twice and the other guys has only got over 20 goals twice. I wonder which one is more wanted around the league then the other.
glaive a aimé ceci.
29 juill. 2023 à 16 h 37
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You're asking for basically 2 1sts for Lindholm? No thanks... he's a 60 point forward whose great defensively. With that logic, Teuvo Teravainen should net this kind of return... I like Lindholm, but he's so overrated on here


You’d argue different if the trade didn’t involve the Canes. Suddenly everyone on your team is better and everyone else sucks. Go outside man
29 juill. 2023 à 16 h 39
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One plays centre, one has got over 75 points twice and the other guys has only got over 20 goals twice. I wonder which one is more wanted around the league then the other.


One played with Tkachuk and Gaudreau when he put up those point totals while the other has put up 75 points with Lucas Wallmark and Warren Foegele... I'd bet it's closer than you think
29 juill. 2023 à 16 h 40
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You’d argue different if the trade didn’t involve the Canes. Suddenly everyone on your team is better and everyone else sucks. Go outside man


Nope, I've argued this forever. One needed 2 of the best wingers in the league to reach 75 points, one did it with a 3rd liner and a KHLer...
29 juill. 2023 à 16 h 44
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Nope, I've argued this forever. One needed 2 of the best wingers in the league to reach 75 points, one did it with a 3rd liner and a KHLer...


Teuvo is washed. Was last close to a ppg in the 2019 season. I think any GM with a developed frontal lobe is going to choose the 2-way center good for 60+ points. Get outta here man stop arguing this 😭
29 juill. 2023 à 16 h 59
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Teuvo is washed. Was last close to a ppg in the 2019 season. I think any GM with a developed frontal lobe is going to choose the 2-way center good for 60+ points. Get outta here man stop arguing this 😭


You want to try that again? He's had one bad year because he got brained and then had JG Pageau break his hand with a slash. 65 points in 77 games the year before, 15 in 21 before that, 63 in 68 before that... stop it. Are you trolling or clueless? Let's look at Lindholm's stats!

64 in 80 this last year in his first year without Tkachuk and Gaudreau, lets note that.
82 in 82 with Gaudreau and Tkachuk, 47 in 56 with Gaudreau and Tkachuk, 54 in 70 with Gaudreau and Tkachuk...You really think he's worth more than Teuvo? He's been on a comparable pace if not better than this dude for most of the last 4 years apart from one year when that entire line went nuts, and then two of the top, what 10? Wingers in the league left, he dropped off to worse than Tuevo's career average...
29 juill. 2023 à 17 h 2
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Quoting: Caniac2000
You want to try that again? He's had one bad year because he got brained and then had JG Pageau break his hand with a slash. 65 points in 77 games the year before, 15 in 21 before that, 63 in 68 before that... stop it. Are you trolling or clueless? Let's look at Lindholm's stats!

64 in 80 this last year in his first year without Tkachuk and Gaudreau, lets note that.
82 in 82 with Gaudreau and Tkachuk, 47 in 56 with Gaudreau and Tkachuk, 54 in 70 with Gaudreau and Tkachuk...You really think he's worth more than Teuvo? He's been on a comparable pace if not better than this dude for most of the last 4 years apart from one year when that entire line went nuts, and then two of the top, what 10? Wingers in the league left, he dropped off to worse than Tuevo's career average...


You’re forgetting where Lindholm is more desirable as a center and is much more defensively responsible. Come on bro, for once in your life just drop the homerism.Not everybody that wears that stupid hurricane logo is gods gift to hockey. come down to earth and stop being unlikeable.
 
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