Man, I know it's troll season, but that offer is dog sh*t bad for Gibson.

How’s that retention lol

Hard pass

You failed to pay for both Gibson and then also the retention

I’m scared to ask,
but what do u think Gibson is worth?

AZ hangs up

Something with actually some potential to win the trade and not cripple the franchise going forward, retention is basically a non starter, especially with such a limited trade tree. Where’s the potential, this entire package could be gone in a year, and all you have left is 3 years of retention.

Pretty much what @Birtle34 said. There need to be pieces in there that have a chance of Anaheim winning the trade if they pan out, and not one in a million chance, but guys that are expected to have that level of upside, not project prospects.

And as pointed out, Retention is a non starter. You want him, you take all of him.

Olofsson as a one dimensional middle 6 making 2nd line money, as a pending UFA, adds nothing to the trade as far as we are concerned, he's just a toss in. Joker is a halfway decent bottom 4 D, but what we need are defense first guys on the right, Joker is not a shutdown guy. UPL is reaching the turning point from "prospect with upside" to "failure to launch". He's never put up convincing numbers for any extended stretch at any level of North American hockey.

That package above isn't compelling for Calle Clang.

My question has nothing to do with this trade proposal

Just- in general- what do u think Gibson is worth after several down seasons where he’s put up bad numbers, with a Cap hit over $6mil (nonretention) ?

This ACGM isn’t mine- idc about the proposal

Gibson is a 30year old goalie coming off FOUR poor seasons in a row, with a high Cap hit
So AGAIN, what do u Ducks fans really think you’re gonna get for him???

4 years of term, retention is really a non starter, just keep and try to shine up til there’s a better offer, I would say he’s worth a second a random prospect and a fillin add to offset money, but I’m not a ducks fan.

A NHL caliber backup
A prospect/young player of either the following flavors' scoring winger with realistic 2nd line potential or defensive RD with realistic 2nd pairing potential
A 24 conditional 1st (make 2nd or 3rd round, Gibson plays over 50% games, slides to 2nd if not met)
Some toss in to make money work, if needed.

U really think you’re gonna get a 2nd & a good prospect for
a goalie with FOUR straight years of BAD numbers, & an oversized Cap hit???

Good luck with that

@OldNYIfan
Let' pose a different question.
What is the value of a 30 yo GK who over the past four seasons has 0.902 SV% (52nd) and 3.32 GAA (68th)?
Whose best season during that four year period was four ago recording 3.00 GAA 20 W 26 L 5 T 0.904 SV%?

Real question then is why gamble on next 4 years if he is so bad?

Gibson's value is the increased chance of Buffalo making the playoffs in each of the next four seasons.

The whole reason why Buffalo supporters keep promoting Gibson trades is that all of them, on some level (including the unconscious one), accept that premise.

Gibson is perfect for Anaheim's purposes: both term and cost provide a completely acceptable bridge into what is expected to be our return to relevance in two or three seasons, after which the hope is that Lukas Dostal will be ready to replace him if he's no longer a viable starting goalie. With that in mind, Anaheim is probably not going to part with him unless there is at least one highly valuable asset going back to the Ducks. That could be a first-round draft pick, an A RW prospect like Quinn or Rosen, or some mixture of roster player(s) and goalie replacement (UPL). A second, a random prospect and a fill-in, or even Victor Olofsson, isn't close enough to interesting to motivate us to give a counter-offer.

The package shown here is woefully inadequate. Add a conditional first along the lines suggested by my esteemed friend @GiggyWithGibby and take out the retention and it is understandable. Another possibility is a 2024 first and Quinn or Rosen. I don't think that any of Buffalo's defense prospects are sufficiently superior to ours that they would feature prominently into any package for JG.

I think you’ll find that MANY Sabres fans do NOT want to gamble on Gibson

Although there are some who would- IF- the price is right
I get that Ducks fans wanna get a package like Gibson is still elite, but it’s been half a decade since he actually had elite production
Don’t think they’re being realistic

Cool story bro, we'll just keep him then, we're more than happy to do so.

And 99% of Sabres fans are more than happy NOT to get him