The Jets would probably prefer Swayman coming back in a Schiefele to Boston trade.

Center/rhd dman and goalie would be the needs with a scheifele/helly moves, goalie could be a 2/3 year stopgap, the dman and center probably looking more longterm answers.

I don't think trades are happening because player movement clauses and cap restrictions. I expect more trades in season with more cap space and more clear organizational objectives being defined.

Since when is Mark Scheifele worth 4 x $9,750,000? Try more like 4 x $8,000,000 at the very most. And that offer doesn't get you a sign and trade Mark Scheifele either.

Horvat got 8.5 and Scheifele is a much better offensive player than Horvat. Horvat has averaged 43.6 points per season, Scheifele has averaged 64.5 points, excluding seasons with less than 10 games played.

I was also factoring in that it is a short term deal, which would increase the cap hit, as well as the increased cap ceiling next year.

Scheifele will also be turning 31 when his new deal kicks in, He'll be trending down sooner rather than later. He's not close to a $10,000,000 per season player. His best years are behind him. He's pretty much past his prime at 30 years of age.

That could very well be true. I could see a big dip in NTCs and NMCs after this offseason, seems like that's been handcuffing a lot of GMs. Also with no one wanting to give up 1st round picks at the draft, it has been pretty stale.

I think perceived value from a fan perspective and the value to a GM or organization is very different. How often do 40 goal scoring centers come on the market? 30 or not, to be able to acquire someone like that and drop right into the lineup is a huge asset. Will the last 2 years of his contract be bad from a money perspective? Probably. But with no elite talent at the center position and a roster that is mostly ready to compete, what else are you supposed to do?

Yes, you can acquire someone like Lindholm, but he is only 2 years younger will be looking for an 8 year deal at what? $8m or $9m? That's not going to age well either.

No chance Winnipeg does that. The only desirable piece to Winnipeg is the mid to late 1st, but that obviously isn't enough for a retained 1C.

Can't see WPG biting on that offer.

Calling Scheifele a 40G center is like calling Kreider a 50G winger. Just because a guy does it once doesn't mean squat. Pastrnak just put up 61 goals, but I don't consider him a 60G winger. If he does it a few more times, then sure I'd consider him one. As for your comment about Horvat earlier, Horvat is significantly better in the dot and defensively compared to Scheifele.

I don't think you're acquiring Scheifele for anything other than O-zone starts and powerplay. Yes, Horvat is better defensively, is he worth $8.5? No.

Sure, Scheifele is usually around 25-30ish goals, with the outliers being 38 and 42 goals. He's still .89 PpG over his entire career. I would rather put short money into the offensive specialist than hope that Lindholm can replicate his one or two good seasons for 8 years of $8.5m-$9m.

I rather the guy who can give me 60+ points, play a sound defensive game and be strong in the dot. Scheifele last season was on the ice for 37% of Winnipeg's 5v5 goals against while being below average in the dot. Sure he can put up points when he's on the ice....but so can the other team. For reference, Lindholm was on the ice for 27% of Calgary's 5v5 goals against.

Lindholm has only put up 60+ points three times. If Scheifele isn't a 40G center after putting up 38G and 42G, Lindholm isn't a 60+ point center after putting up 3 60+ point seasons around 7 years of 45-55 points.

Agree with the point argument here but there is no denying the difference in defensive quality and age between the players and I think that is the higher upside for Boston's perspective. I would also argue the difference in rumored mental / locker-room issues in Winnipeg linked to Scheifele and Wheeler is cause for pause from Boston.

And 2 of those 3 times were in the last 2 seasons. Lindholm put up 64 last year, 82 the year before that and then 47 due to the shorten season. He's put up 60+ in 3 of last 5 years

yes, Lindholm has shown improvement over his career but the 20 point drop in production should be of concern after the loss of Tkachuk and Gaudreau. It's not like the Flames were depleted of top 6 talent. You could probably contribute some of that production drop to the coaching as well.

Why would it be a concern? I see his 82pt season as an anomaly. It's kind of funny, now that I look at it Lindholm had 42 goals last year.....should he be considered a 40G center?