Missing a quality piece for Pesce.

A Vancouver first?

How much more than a 1st and solid young winger do you think Pesce gets?

why would AZ trade the guy they just signed ? stetcher isnt much but he provides veteran on a very young blueline and hes better than rathbone

canes fans are the absolute most biased fanbase on here bar none. the amount of trade proposals i've seen with jack ****ing drury being the centrepiece is unbearable. they crash out in the 2nd/3rd round every year, their fanbase craps on the team for two weeks, and then they go back to demanding the sun and the moon for their scraps

To be fair, we see team's do a lot worse than Carolina all around the league, a team which has succeeded as far as being a perennial playoff contender, but as their contention window roles along, having spent I guess the first three seasons of it(I don't know if there really is a consensus of when the Canes contention window actually opened, but for me the covid shortened season in 2021 was the first team they looked truly threatening), the question will remain whether or not they can kick the bucket with the current regime

Pesce says no.

There are a couple of things to look at here:

Pesce (28) - 185 points (and great defense) in 557 GP (.33 PPG), +82, .37 PIM per game, .36 playoff PPG (+1) / $4.025MM salary with 1 year left
Myers (33) - 342 points (and okay defense) in 918 GP (.37 PPG), -7, .77 PIM per game, .30 playoff PPG (-4) / $6MM ($4MM after retention) salary with 1 year left

Look at the above, why would Carolina trade equal salaries for next season for a player who is 5 years older, with equal offensive production, much worse defense, takes twice as many penalties? This is a massive net negative!

Whoever said Nils is a "solid" winger is just as delusional as Canes fans overvaluing Drury in trade discussions. Nils is a .38 PPG, .32 PIM per game, -15. 4th liner at best. Suzuki may very well be a bust and hasn't played a game in the NHL yet (he had some serious injuries that he has been making his way back from), but has potential to crack the lineup depending on what he can show this year with his health, as of now a 4th line prospect. For this one it is difficult to base on little to no NHL stats as a comparable, but based on the last few years on lesser league play Suzuki has much better numbers. The biased part of me wants to call this a negative for the Canes, but I can't say definitively. Nils doesn't crack the Canes lineup though.

The 1st and the 4th are the value here. The 1st covers the discrepancies with the Pesce/Myers and the 4th would only be to sweeten it for the Canes to take Nils.

As a whole this trade doesn't make either team better, they'd both be worse off. Vancouver needs their picks to build, Carolina needs their pieces to push for a cup. This would make the active roster for the Canes worse, which is what they are trying to improve to win a cup, we have future picks already and honestly draft picks in the NHL are not worth as much as people think they are - unless they are top 5.

From the above Canes say no.