I am sure this is what it would take. I would rather give up a pick, rather than Minten though.

IMO, the Leafs have to buyout BOTH Murray and Brodie to get a practical 22 man roster
Leafs are definitely in win mode this season.....so the 687,000 Murray cap and Brodie's zero dollars cap hit would be OK for this year, though Brodie would have to replaced by cheaper/lesser on ice player than Brodie.
You correct about next season. 2m and 2.5m for Brodie cap hits. But it really doesn't matter, Bertuzzi, Domi, Samsonov will be gone. that's 12m ....and probably be replaced by lesser players and cap.
Matthews and Nylander. Personally I don't really see what the issue is. UFAs come and to all the time, if Matthews doesn't resign for whatever so be it.....same with Nylander. Let's say the Leafs set aside 22m for those two players, but they don't resign. Well that's 22m to spend on other players if not 24/25 maybe the following year.

It's kinda crazy on CapFriendly. Seems like so many think Nylander is the only upcoming UFA in 24/25 and either he has to be resigned now or be traded. Gee there are 100 upcoming UFAs that haven't b been resigned, they all don't traded.

IMO Leafs just can't Minten or Niemela. The only two true NHL prospects they have besides goalies.

ur in the right ballpark but i don't think it's gonna be minten heading back, someone a little less valuable probably or a pick instead

buying out brodie is hilarious, they could easily get a 1st for him on the trade market if they wanna move him

OK. Show me a team that would be on trade list that can take on his 5m cap. If a team does have 5m, certainly that could sign a UFA for 5m and not give up a first.

any team in on pesce would be in on brodie as a backup plan: dallas, buffalo, maybe nashville. it doesn't matter if they have 5m in space now or not (buffalo and nashville both do though fyi), because when a team acquires a player they often trade one away in order to balance the salaries. it's a unique concept called trading which i guess you may not have heard of yet.

but yea, go out on the open market and find me a rhd available who's on brodie's level. and don't bother saying dumba unless you want me to put you in the corner with a dunce cap on

They don’t HAVE to carry a 22 man roster. They can easily carry a 20 man roster and send guys up and down to accumulate cap space - like they’ve done in previous years. They’re not buying Brodie out. That’s the dumbest move when they’re looking for help in defence, why would they buy out their best defensive defender?

My opinion on it was the Leafs would likely still want to be top contenders for a few years after this. Say the cap goes up by 4 million, you add in the Murray buyout and for TOR it's only really going up 2 million. You also have Bertuzzi Domi and Samsonov coming up so that's an extra 12 million. You have 14 million for: A Matthews raise (probably 2.5 million more) a Nylander raise (probably 2.5 million more) a new starting goalie (probably costs around 4 million) and then two top 9 wingers (let's say 5 million combined) that's the 14 million. Then you need to give Liljegren a raise (or add another top 4 Dman) and I don't think the Leafs can afford it with a Murray buyout.

I also understand why you'd be hesitant on moving Minten or Niemela but if you're truly trying to win the cup I feel it could be worth it

The usual nonsense of a fool who will write anything to try to save face. Thanks of proving my point, you can't name a team that really wants to take on Brodie's 5m hit and none would certainly wouldn't give up a first for the pleasure.
Sorry bro, the site is CapFriendly.....which I guess you haven't heard of yet. Just another homer.

It's going to cost a lot to move Murray, personally I would want more than Minten to relieve the Leafs of Murrays cap hit and $8M salary. No team is going to give you a 1st for Brodie.

guess you missed the three teams i mentioned that would absolutely be interested in a player like brodie, yet i'm still waiting for you to name the rhd free agent who's better than him for less than 5m like you said there were so many of?

funny how when the isles move out albatross $5m josh bailey it only costs a 2nd, but when its the leafs all of a sudden its gonna cost four 1st round picks. either way murray's either getting ltir'd or bought out leafs aren't trading him

Actually the only team that might on his trade list that has the cap are the Sabres. That would be a fit. But the Sabres aren't giving up anything to help the Leafs with their cap.
The Leafs would have to replace Brodie with lesser cap player and obviously a "not as good" player to make the cap work for 23/24.

in that scenario my guess is brodie out zadorov in, maybe even retained if needed

They won't get a 1st for Brodie, not if they're this tight up against the cap

Bailey was only owed $3.5M, Murray is owed $8M. The difference of 4.5M real dollars is the reason that moving Murray will cost more. Murray was cleared to play on May 9th so I don't see how you can just LTIR him.

the salary only matters if you move him to a poverty team like arizona, vancouver's owners burn through money like wildfires burn through alberta. and my guess is murray gets ltir'd for something like mental health reasons if he doesn't get bought out, been a lot of quiet chatter about it in toronto. either way they're 100% not spending any assets to dump him because a) they don't need to and b) they would've already done it if they did need to

Do you still live with your parents? That's a lot of money, even for the owner of an NHL team. Toronto has 3 choices with Murray, pay another team to take his contract, buy out his contract or keep him and eat the cap hit. I really don't care which one they choose.