Is Erik Karlsson A Good Idea For the Sabres

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Créé par: OldNYIfan

Équipe: 2023-24 Sabres de Buffalo

Date de création initiale: 15 juill. 2023

Publié: 22 juill. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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I'm not sure how good an on-ice fit Erik Karlsson is for the Sabres, but they certainly have the cap space (both now and in the future) and the assets needed to acquire him. (There are a variety of high-quality forward prospects that can be substituted for Isak Rosen if desired.)

I assume that one of Bryson or Stillman gets traded somewhere, and two forwards are added to the roster to fill it out.

I apologize for not being sufficiently familiar with the team to know the appropriate line combinations, but I assume that the defense pairings would be as shown.

Aside from Peterka and Quinn, excellent prospects in the pipeline include Kisakov, Kulich, Nadeau, Ostlund and Savoie up front and Ryan Johnson at LhD, so this team has a bright future even if they have to lose a few to add Karlsson.

I'll be interested to see how Buffalo fans answer this question.

Transactions

BUF

Karlsson, Erik (2 300 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

San Jose retains 10% and Anaheim retains 10%

SJS

Jokiharju, Henri
Olofsson, Victor
Rosén, Isak
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (BUF)

BUF

Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
Choix de 7e ronde en 2026 (ANA)

Détails additionnels:

Anaheim retains 10% on Karlsson ($1.15 million for 4 seasons)

ANA

Lyubushkin, Ilya

Détails additionnels:

Anaheim also receives San Jose's 2025 second-round draft pick

Rachats de contrats

Christian Ehrhoff: 0 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	83 500 000 $	74 486 070 $	0 $	4 570 000 $	9 013 930 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Skinner, Jeff 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 4	Thompson, Tage 7 142 857 $7 142 857 $ C UFA - 7	Tuch, Alex 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 3
Mittelstadt, Casey 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AG, C RFA - 1	Cozens, Dylan 7 100 000 $7 100 000 $ C, AG UFA - 7	Quinn, Jack 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 2
Peterka, John-Jason 855 833 $855 833 $ (32 500 $$32K) AG, AD RFA - 2	Jost, Tyson 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C UFA - 1	Okposo, Kyle 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ (500 000 $$500K) AD UFA - 1
Girgensons, Zemgus 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1	Krebs, Peyton 863 333 $863 333 $ (412 500 $$412K) C, AG RFA - 1	Greenway, Jordan 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Power, Owen 916 667 $916 667 $ (1 850 000 $$2M) DG/DD UFA - 1	Karlsson, Erik 7 700 000 $7 700 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 4	Comrie, Eric 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ G UFA - 1
Samuelsson, Mattias 4 285 714 $4 285 714 $ DG UFA - 7	Dahlin, Rasmus 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Levi, Devon 925 000 $925 000 $ (925 000 $$925K) G RFA - 2
Bryson, Jacob 1 850 000 $1 850 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 1	Clifton, Connor 3 333 333 $3 333 333 $ DD UFA - 3
Stillman, Riley 1 350 000 $1 350 000 $ DG RFA - 1	Johnson, Erik 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ DD UFA - 1

22 juill. 2023 à 20 h 42

pretzelcoatl

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Clearly they can afford it cap-wise, which can't be said for a lot of potential suitors. In terms of line balance, I'd have Karlsson away from Power since both are very offense-first guys.

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22 juill. 2023 à 20 h 43

PHEN

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We don’t need Karlsson. Not at the $ he gets and price to give up. Sabres would be happy to trade for a Pesce or sign Dumba as a ufa

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22 juill. 2023 à 20 h 49

BUF10

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Sabres score a lot and can’t defend. Karlsson is like the Exact opposite on what they need.

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22 juill. 2023 à 20 h 52

littlejerryseinfeld

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He is not a good idea for buffalo

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22 juill. 2023 à 20 h 56

Birtle34

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Kind of a luxury that would be wild to experience, but term and caphit is asking for trouble going forward, kind of like adding Campbell too the hawks before there run, but may run them into a needed sale also. Banner would be worth it, but also a lot of tough decisions going forward.

OldNYIfan a aimé ceci.

22 juill. 2023 à 20 h 59

OldNYIfan

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Quoting: pretzelcoatl

Clearly they can afford it cap-wise, which can't be said for a lot of potential suitors. In terms of line balance, I'd have Karlsson away from Power since both are very offense-first guys.

Quoting: PHEN

We don’t need Karlsson. Not at the $ he gets and price to give up. Sabres would be happy to trade for a Pesce or sign Dumba as a ufa

Quoting: BUF10

Sabres score a lot and can’t defend. Karlsson is like the Exact opposite on what they need.

Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

He is not a good idea for buffalo

Quoting: Birtle34

Kind of a luxury that would be wild to experience, but term and caphit is asking for trouble going forward.

Thanks for the input, guys!

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22 juill. 2023 à 21 h 6

GeneralLandro

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Anaheim shouldn’t have interest in helping out someone else with 4 years of retention

22 juill. 2023 à 21 h 14

homiedaclown

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Modifié 22 juill. 2023 à 21 h 19

Ek65 would be a HORRIBLE IDEA for the Sabres

He’s too old
Makes too much $$$
And we aren’t gonna give up what it takes to get him

Heck, we aren’t gonna give up ANYTHING to get him
He doesn’t fit our timeline
Hard pass

Homie don’t play dat

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22 juill. 2023 à 21 h 20

OldNYIfan

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

Anaheim shouldn’t have interest in helping out someone else with 4 years of retention

I think that $4.6 million for a second is a reasonable idea for us. Jackson LaCombe, Drew Hellesen, Olen Zellweger, Tristan Luneau, Noah Warren, Arthur Kaliyev and Sean Durzi were all taken with second-round picks. And note that the pick is one that would otherwise be used by a direct competitor of ours . . .

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22 juill. 2023 à 22 h 24

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sabres89

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The Sabres are going to have to extend dahlin and power, a lot of that cap space will disappear when that happens. Plus their problem isn't scoring, it's the brutal play in their own end, something Karlsson isn't gonna help with. Anaheim isn't going to tie up a retention spot for 4 years, certainly not for just a second and Lyubushkin. Maybe a team like Pittsburgh would bite, but the retention will have to be all Sharks, whatever amount it is, and I would expect a fair amount of salary coming back, just to make the cap work. Maybe petry and rust or something.

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22 juill. 2023 à 22 h 26

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Birtle34

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Can I change my answer? Don’t believe it can be the final move, would need a dahlin 10x8 and a 2x5 on power, an upgrade of Comrie possibly with some cost certainty, maybe kid out of Florida and or hart out of Philly. Save a million for krebs and a couple for middlestadt and let’s get at it. Possibly a retained Gibson. Just some certainty and some kids to grow into roles and some elite talent all mixed together and hopefully some good times in Buffalo. Old islander gm believed you need to win a series 5vs5/special teams/goalie steal one/ and physical. Couple of the right adds and I think the team checks enough boxes going forward.

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