I'm totally fine with all of it. I think this a competitive team to make the playoffs and that's their goal (at least said publicly).

Sure, if Dumba is available on a year flyer, definitely okay to part with Myers.

Unlikely JGP would be available for Garland given the Isles forward group build. Though center upgrade is needed unless they like the development of Aman or Raty made a huge leap. Blueger isn't anything more than a 4th liner imo.

I don’t think Arizona accept unles a third round pick is involved. And that team is so mid. Not enough talent to compete, but too much to tank. This team is screwed.

Comical and Ironic comment coming from an Arizona fan (see above). Should actually be playing in the AHL.

Regarding the proposal: its a bit ho hum. Doesn't real move the needle for the Nucks but might be practical. Dont think the Canucks want Josh Brown. Lots of better players in the system already, but moving CAP is probably the goal. May have to retain a bit on Myers though. Good attempt by a self professed outsider.

why are they screwed? they a few years into the rebuild and have tons of young talent (geez keller is only 24) they arent in the compete stage yet and well beyond the tank stage. On the trade makes sense for both - 4th is fine. @ TDL meyers (50%) prolly get better return than brown - as neither is long term plan for team.

I'd rather be in AZ position (lots of cap space, lots of good young talent coming up, lots of draft capital, really no bad contracts) than VAN (cap hell, not a lot of prospects or picks, some bad contracts but some real good pieces currently on roster but not enough to really compete) Benning screwed you guys up something.

Vancouver is screwed. That is what I said if you read

got it, van has some really good parts just a lot of crap to get rid of, hopefully can dump most of it and keep those young core guys. will be a challenge. Plus tocchet (at least in AZ) started out looking good but it went south quickly, players didnt like him.

Vancouver shouldn't have any trouble making the playoffs, they have a pretty good roster as is. At worst, they should nab a wild card spot behind Edmonton, Vegas, and Los Angeles, and they're most likely going to be better than all three of Winnipeg, St. Louis, and Nashville

could be worse - philly is freaking beyond screwed so many awful contracts,

Vancouver should get rid of Pettersson and start a true rebuild

Vancouver isn’t a playoffs team. Oilers, Vegas, Kings and Kraken should all be before Vancouver. Flames as well. Even the Ducks have a better roster

Ignorance at it's finest

Very good post.Well thought out.Like the team nice balance.

They are too bad to compete, too good to tank. Trading Pettersson would send them into a true rebuild while getting a lot of assets.

They're most definitely not too bad to compete. Again, no concrete arguments to back up your claims

Bad bottom 6, horrible defense. No backup. Having Beauvillier and Mikheyev on a top 6 is awful too. Oilers, Knights, Kings, Kraken, Flames and Ducks all have a better team. This team is 7 in pacific, maybe 6 (if Anaheim choke again)

All those claims are 1000% false. Troll confirmed

Lol, you are really overvaluing your team. Their only hope is that Pettersson get hurt and they can tank for Celebrini. Even Montreal has a better D than Vancouver. And Montreal have better winger for the top 6. And more depth.

Nope, you're just spewing out nonsense with absolutely no context to back any of it up

Tell me a reason Vancouver should be competing then

Gladly.

Superstar Centerman: Elias Pettersson, CHECK

Superstar Defenseman: Quinn Hughes, CHECK

Above-average to elite goaltender: Thatcher Demko, CHECK

High end top-line winger: Andrei Kuzmenko, CHECK

High end no. 2 defender: Filip Hronek, CHECK

Quality no. 2 Centerman: JT Miller, CHECK

Reliable secondary scoring options: Brock Boeser, Conor Garland, Anthony Beauvillier, Ilya Mikheyev, CHECK

Reliable everyday back end support pieces: Ian Cole, Carson Soucy, CHECK

Reliable penalty killing personnel: Teddy Blueger, Ilya Mikheyev, Dakota Joshua, Nils Aman, Phillip Di Giussepe, Ian Cole, Carson Soucy, Filip Hronek, Elias Pettersson, CHECK

Cheap labor options still with untapped upside: Vasily Podkolzin, Nils Hoglander, CHECK

Quality depth options on defense: Tyler Myers(despite contractual inefficiencies), Christian Wolanin, Matt Irwin, Guillaume Brisebois, Akito Hirose, Noah Juulsen, Jett Woo, CHECK

Reliable backup options: Artus Silovs, Spencer Martin, this is definitely a bit of a wildcard, but it's not a hopeless situation

Again, I never proclaimed this roster to be a cup contender, they're obviously not that, but there is most definitely enough depth on the roster for this team to compete for a wild card spot minimum. The only real question mark outside of the injury variable, which all teams face, is backup goaltending, but the club has multiple options internally who could fight for that spot, so it's highly unlikely to sink the team's season by itself. I'm not saying playoffs are a guarantee either, but they're most certainly not a lost cause before the season has even begun.

They aren't going to do that. They already commited to a re-tool. The Canucks have a core in place to win, they just need better supporting pieces

Where is the top 6 outside of Kusmenko, Pettersson and Miller? Cause those 3 wingers are third liner. The defense is horrible outside of Hronek and Hughes. I could do the same thing with the habs

Superstar forward : Caufield
Superstar D : We actually don’t have that, so you beat us on this side
High end forward : Suzuki
High end D : Matheson, Guhle
Quality no 2 c : Dach
Reliable secondary scoring option : Monahan, Anderson, Newhook
Reliable everyday back end support piece : Harris, Savard, Barron
Reliable Pk personnel : RHP, Evans, Dvorak, Ylonen, Pitlick
Cheap labor option : Roy, Beck
Quality depth option : Kovacevic, Wideman
Backup option : Allen, Primeau

This team is a bottom 5 team and it beat you in most of the categories… you aren’t making the playoffs

This is why they are gonna be mid for a long time

The finished this season with a winning record despite running 2 AHL goaltenders for half the season, and a pretty much replacement level defense core. Unless another catastrophic injury happens, I don't see them being very bad

Horrible horrible take

Dach isn't a bonafied 2C just yet, he's at best a quality top six winger

Garland, Boeser, and Beauvillier are not 3rd line caliber players, they're 2nd line caliber players

Ylonen and Pitlick aren't good enough to be everyday players

Roy and Beck aren't NHL ready yet

Monohan is too fragile to be relied upon as a legit secondary scorer, and Anderson's contract is less efficient than Boeser's or Garland's

Guhle still needs to show more before he's regarded as a true top four defender, same with Harris and Barron

Try again buster