Seems like a light return but goalies don’t have huge value
Fair trade IMO
They get at least a 1st round pick
Former 1st rounder Chase Stillman (tho his stock dropped)
A decent goalie prospect
3rd rounder

So somehow that means that the Jets just hand you a vezina winning goalie?

There's nothing interesting there for Winnipeg outside of the first, resulting in a no from the Jets.

Stillman's stock hasn't dropped, it just wasn't high to begin with

What pieces are you looking for?

Chevy wants NHL ready players, Not futures for Hellebuyck and the rest.

1st, Holtz and a goalie and then a 2nd if you want him retained

If I'm the Jets I want Mercer

This would be an unprecedented return for a rental goalie. Holtz alone would by all accounts be an overpayment for Hellebuyck.

Top 6 forwards on ELCs don't get traded for goalies, even if Hellebuyck is the return.
Cannot see that happening.

There's no historical precedent for a return half this big. If Holtz is even on the table, which I doubt he is, the trade would be one for one. Mercer is not on the table, I'd bet my life savings.

This feels pretty fair for a return maybe sweeten the pot a little but I think people who are expecting way more have to realize Hellebuyck is a rental, and UFA, and He's also already stated he's not signing with WPG. So they have no leverage.

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Even if somehow Holtz makes amazing strides and makes the second line with Hughes,

The big problem with this is that it leaves the team a roster spot short and Curtis Lazar the only scratch at forward. And not enough money left for even an ELC contract to fill in the spot.

The Jets will ask for pieces they need, not just accept pieces you no longer want because they haven't lived up to expectations.

Jets decline, that offer gets beat

Daws looks great and Stillman is whatever but you're mischaracterizing the offer. There's no way you get Holtz, Schmid, etc.

Nope, not mischaracterizing it at all. The Jets will want pieces that help. Not just ones you are comfortable dumping.

So what pieces do you want then? You never actually answered the question

I try to stay away from counter offers as it usually just turns the thread into a pissing match. I would assure though, Holtz would be the most logical, assuming the Jets scouts like him.

I doubt Holtz would be on the table. I don't mean to argue, I genuinely want to know what pieces interest you.

I doubt Holtz would be on the table. I don't mean to argue, I genuinely want to know what pieces interest you.

No problem. I don't want to argue either. I'm sure there are other options, as pro scouts think a lot differently than us, I enjoy talking about options that I think the Jets would at least consider. It's just really hard to come up with those pieces that fill needs of wants and might be available.