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Créé par: Sdoiger6
Équipe: 2023-24 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 7 juill. 2023
Publié: 7 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
31 500 000 $
67 750 000 $
Transactions
DET
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [Droits de RFA]
OTT
  1. Kubalik, Dominik
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DET)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (DET)
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2025
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 8
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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1 460 000 $1 460 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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5 100 000 $5 100 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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878 333 $878 333 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
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762 500 $762 500 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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850 000 $850 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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905 833 $905 833 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
AG
RFA - 3
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918 333 $918 333 $
C
RFA - 4
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775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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859 167 $859 167 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
AG
RFA - 2
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838 333 $838 333 $ (Bonis de performance105 000 $$105K)
C
RFA - 3
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870 000 $870 000 $ (Bonis de performance80 000 $$80K)
C
RFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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900 000 $900 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 3
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950 000 $950 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
G
RFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
828 333 $828 333 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
775 000 $775 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
828 333 $828 333 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
820 000 $820 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
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867 500 $867 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
DD
RFA - 2

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7 juill. 2023 à 17 h 45
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Honestly, I think Ottawa could probably do better at the trade deadline. I would do a year out of arbitration and consider that. Especially with some retention.
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7 juill. 2023 à 17 h 57
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Honestly, I think Ottawa could probably do better at the trade deadline. I would do a year out of arbitration and consider that. Especially with some retention.


I would think Ottawa would try to avoid that route. They'd probably get a better return while the team he's going to has an opportunity to negotiate a new contract as an RFA instead of a UFA.
7 juill. 2023 à 18 h 0
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Fantastic.
7 juill. 2023 à 18 h 1
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I would think Ottawa would try to avoid that route. They'd probably get a better return while the team he's going to has an opportunity to negotiate a new contract as an RFA instead of a UFA.


I think they would too and I think they have been smart to let this play out. My stipulation here is if the return is disappointing. That would make Plan B more attractive. I wouldn't bet it would come to that. I think they'll get a decent deal. But I wouldn't rule it out.
7 juill. 2023 à 18 h 3
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I think they would too and I think they have been smart to let this play out. My stipulation here is if the return is disappointing. That would make Plan B more attractive. I wouldn't bet it would come to that. I think they'll get a decent deal. But I wouldn't rule it out.


I think it's a big gamble giving him the one year from arbitration and hoping to move him at the deadline. What happens if Ottawa is in the mix? Can't imagine they'd move him then if they have a chance at competing in the playoffs. Then he walks for nothing.
7 juill. 2023 à 18 h 10
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I think it's a big gamble giving him the one year from arbitration and hoping to move him at the deadline. What happens if Ottawa is in the mix? Can't imagine they'd move him then if they have a chance at competing in the playoffs. Then he walks for nothing.


I think if Ottawa was going to accept getting a bit fleeced on this it would have happened. I would take my chances if this were the return. I will be as curious as anyone as to how this plays out. It is Ottawa, after all.
7 juill. 2023 à 18 h 12
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It'll be more than that. At the deadline Debrincat gets a 1st +
7 juill. 2023 à 18 h 13
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Quoting: InRodWeTrust
Honestly, I think Ottawa could probably do better at the trade deadline. I would do a year out of arbitration and consider that. Especially with some retention.


I am not sure what contending team will have the cap space for that at the deadline
7 juill. 2023 à 18 h 17
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I am not sure what contending team will have the cap space for that at the deadline


With 50% retention. If needed, another team can add 25%. We saw a lot of retention this past deadline. See Kane, Patrick.
7 juill. 2023 à 19 h 48
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Honestly, I think Ottawa could probably do better at the trade deadline. I would do a year out of arbitration and consider that. Especially with some retention.


"Could"? They 100% would

It's just CF being CF again...
7 juill. 2023 à 20 h 3
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"Could"? They 100% would

It's just CF being CF again...


Curious your thoughts on something. Personally, even as a rental I could see DeBrincat get a sizable return at the TDL. Would it not be more advantageous to sign the one year arb deal, push forward this year with a team rolling towards up, and hope he changes gears in favor of OTT? Or at least take a shot next year with the guys coming back (Norris, JC getting more familiar, etc.). If it does go sideways, cut losses at that point (TDL) and recoup a better return? Not a big follower of the Sense top to bottom so I couldn't say based on the eye test. Obviously tough considering the cap, but I'd assume you fans would know other moves to help (Joseph/etc.).
9 juill. 2023 à 16 h 9
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Curious your thoughts on something. Personally, even as a rental I could see DeBrincat get a sizable return at the TDL. Would it not be more advantageous to sign the one year arb deal, push forward this year with a team rolling towards up, and hope he changes gears in favor of OTT? Or at least take a shot next year with the guys coming back (Norris, JC getting more familiar, etc.). If it does go sideways, cut losses at that point (TDL) and recoup a better return? Not a big follower of the Sense top to bottom so I couldn't say based on the eye test. Obviously tough considering the cap, but I'd assume you fans would know other moves to help (Joseph/etc.).


Don't know how to explain this shortly but Ottawa's GM is Pierre Dorion, who IMO really doesn't have it. They currently don't even have the cap space to have DeBrincat for 1 year...

I personally don't want DeBrincat long term (so I think Dorion is lucky here), he's not the type of player this team needs to allocate that money and term. They have Norris (if healthy) and Stutzle as 40 goals scorers plus Batherson and Tkachuk as 30 goals scorers. Then you have Claude Giroux, Shane Pinto, Ridly Greig, etc.

Getting DeBrincat was the wrong move from the start. He should have went after Chychrun right away (would have the Yotes refused the 7th OA pick + 2nd + 3rd?). Also keep Nick Paul and Connor Brown instead of Joseph and Gambrell + Gustavsson instead of Talbot

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
Greig - Norris - Batherson
Paul - Pinto - Brown
Kelly - Kastelic - MacEwen

Chabot - Chychrun
Sanderson - JBD
Brannstrom - Zub

Gustavsson
Forsberg

That team would be a contender as soon as this season (with a new coaching staff of course). 4th line sucks though but I would have done that differently. Sign Zach Aston-Reese instead of MacEwen for example. Could have afforded another good 4th liner instead of Kelly too
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