The rangers are worth more

True, but I stated revenue - Leafs generate the most. And rangers are worth (slightly) more only because of the value of MSG. But with real estate prices in Toronto continuing to climb only a matter of time before the Leafs are highest value (market price), highest revenue and highest operating income - the trifecta.

I don't think it's delusional to assume that the leafs had a strategic plan prior to making their free agent signings and it didn't hinge on "worst case scenario we just trade Nylander"

They could still, theoretically, buy out Murray. This assumes that Samsonov files for arbitration which would open a 2nd buy out window for the leafs. And I'm sure there's been trade discussions involving any number of players. Yes, they have work to do to be cap compliant but it's doubtful they would intentionally put themselves in this spot without knowing a few different paths forward

None of which is at all relevant to why I said delusional but you crack on.

Speaks volumes that the most of the league cares more about ****ing with the Leafs than they do with actually making money. no wonder MLS is going to surpass the NHL in 5 years.

Also I don't want to see Nylander traded for Wright one for one. Bad idea to put the kid who struggled to get his footing in the NHL last season into the 2C slot immediately on a win-now team. Sounds like a great way to destroy his confidence.

Which isn't the case at all. No team is going to do another any FAVOURS to get out of cap problems. A team with cap space will weaponise it. You want that cap space, you'll pay to get it. They're all going to do what is best for themselves. Otherwise, if what they do helps the Leafs cap-wise then that will just be a side effect of the transaction in getting the piece they want. You can bet that every single GM will be thinking that way. The fact it's the Leafs isn't the point. On the point of MLS it wouldn't surprise anyone for that to surpass hockey. Association Football is the biggest sport in the world, and it's far cheaper to play and more accessible.

a good number of players have been traded for next to nothing this offseason so i'm not really believing the "weaponizing cap space" argument as much anymore.

Also Wright-for-Nylander isn't a "favour". Not sure where you got that idea.

No but it's all relevant to your rant that trading Nylander for Wright or dumping Murray + young player + pick apparently doing them a favour.

But you can keep cracking on about how you're indifferent but then also suggest the leafs have to pay a bigger premium that every other team when trying to dump a salary.

The funniest part of that statement is the "obnoxious fan base" are obnoxious simply for not hating their own team.

Nylander has terrific value......"Leaf fans overrate their players!!!! The are all obnoxious!"

This is the reality of it.

Except at no point have I said that, but keep on ranting away, you Leafs fanatics do make me giggle. You really do like making sh** up to suit your own narrative!

Not really, it's simply that they're obnoxious. Basically, you're illustrating my point!

Did I specifically say Wright for Nylander was a favour? Nope, I simply said no team will be doing them any favours! This runs to the simple case of the returns on here predicted by Leafs fans. Is Nylander good? Of course. Are the Kraken likely to trade Wright for him? I would think not if Francis has any sense. Leafs need cap space. That's a simple fact. Therefore if the Leafs want that space they'll have to pay for it, one way or another. That may, or may not, involve moving Nylander. There are plenty of other ways they can do it, but, if it comes down to that, then they (and Leaf fans in general) may well be less than pleased with the return. That's where no team will be doing them any favours. Is that clearer for you? Teams will still be weaponising cap space, that won't change regardless of some players moving for next to nothing.

By arguing that Nylander indeed has value.

go back and read your very first post on this thread and see who's been pushing what narrative. Don't dish it out and then be hypocrytical. It's a bad look

Nope, by being obnoxious, but then that's to be expected.

Nothing hypocritical at all. I said I wouldn't trade Wright if I was in Francis's shoes. I also said nobody would be doing Toronto any favours cap-wise. I've re-iterated that. Your narrative is something entirely different, and making s**t up to try to make it look good is an even worse look.

You have proven my point, thank you. It's obnoxious when leaf fans don't **** all over their own team.

Sooooo did you miss the part where he signs an extension with Seattle or did you just choose not to read it?

No, you've just (and continue to) proven my point.

Nylander has value.

"Leaf fans are obnoxious"

Point proven

Repetition doesn't make it a fact. It just makes you look like a parrot.

Denying it after doing exactly that makes you what?

Please do continue emphasising my point to everyone!

This is just silly