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Sea to Cgy

Créé par: Redmile04
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 25 juin 2023
Publié: 25 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
3825 000 $
3825 000 $
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Evans, Ryker
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (SEA)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (SEA)
2.
CGY
  1. Légaré, Nathan
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
3.
CGY
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
4.
CGY
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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Logo de CGY
2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $63 214 166 $0 $1 160 000 $20 285 834 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flames de Calgary
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Flames de Calgary
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
863 333 $863 333 $
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
762 500 $762 500 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
825 000 $825 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
825 000 $825 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
789 167 $789 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
813 333 $813 333 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
825 000 $825 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
897 500 $897 500 $
DG
RFA - 2

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25 juin 2023 à 3 h 18
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Canes pass. Lindholm is what he was when they dumped him in Calgary 6 years ago. Now he's just older and a rental. Still cannot carry his own line, still needs elite talent around him to be a big producer.

Also, Carolina's total payment for rentals under Waddell and Dundon is a 3rd (Gostisbehere), Yegor Korshkov and Aidan Hreschuk (Domi) a 3rd, Janne Kuokkanen (Vatanen). Notice the theme here?
25 juin 2023 à 3 h 32
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Umm, what?

Take out the 1st Boston declines. Even without their cap issues.

Make it Lindholm we’ll talk.
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25 juin 2023 à 4 h 2
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Canes pass. Lindholm is what he was when they dumped him in Calgary 6 years ago. Now he's just older and a rental. Still cannot carry his own line, still needs elite talent around him to be a big producer.

Also, Carolina's total payment for rentals under Waddell and Dundon is a 3rd (Gostisbehere), Yegor Korshkov and Aidan Hreschuk (Domi) a 3rd, Janne Kuokkanen (Vatanen). Notice the theme here?


Absolute clown of a take as usual from you. Flames don't consider that trade
25 juin 2023 à 9 h 10
#4
Lets Get Kraken
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Absolute clown of a take as usual from you. Flames don't consider that trade


I get it is hard to accept, but for once he is actually right. Lindholm is a glorified 2C, whether you like it or not. He has had one year where he could be considered a 1C, and his numbers were very much carried by Gaudreau and Tkachuk that season.
25 juin 2023 à 9 h 37
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I get it is hard to accept, but for once he is actually right. Lindholm is a glorified 2C, whether you like it or not. He has had one year where he could be considered a 1C, and his numbers were very much carried by Gaudreau and Tkachuk that season.


Right so we can go ahead and call players like Roope Hintz glorified 2C's as well then? He's the 3rd best offensive player on his line too. Massive disrespect being thrown around here, yes obviously his points absolutely take a boost from playing with 2 exceptionally offensively gifted players. But Lindholm did a lot of heavy lifting defensively allowing those 2 players to run free offensively so much, there is a reason he got over 800 Selke votes and finished 2nd last year. Bergeron does the same thing for Marchand and Pasta (albeit Bergeron is certainly a better player but there are maybe 10 centers in the league better than Bergeron).
25 juin 2023 à 9 h 53
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Right so we can go ahead and call players like Roope Hintz glorified 2C's as well then? He's the 3rd best offensive player on his line too. Massive disrespect being thrown around here, yes obviously his points absolutely take a boost from playing with 2 exceptionally offensively gifted players. But Lindholm did a lot of heavy lifting defensively allowing those 2 players to run free offensively so much, there is a reason he got over 800 Selke votes and finished 2nd last year. Bergeron does the same thing for Marchand and Pasta (albeit Bergeron is certainly a better player but there are maybe 10 centers in the league better than Bergeron).


But there is a massive difference between Lindholm and guys like Hintz and Bergeron. A Hintz and Bergeron are capable of driving their own offense, on top of allowing their linemates to be more effective via their defensive prowess. Lindholm has flashes of driving his own offense, but he is not a play driver by nature. Career 2C with 1 year as a legitimate 1C, all the while being carried offensively by his wingers/linemates.
25 juin 2023 à 10 h 10
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But there is a massive difference between Lindholm and guys like Hintz and Bergeron. A Hintz and Bergeron are capable of driving their own offense, on top of allowing their linemates to be more effective via their defensive prowess. Lindholm has flashes of driving his own offense, but he is not a play driver by nature. Career 2C with 1 year as a legitimate 1C, all the while being carried offensively by his wingers/linemates.


I completely disagree with this I think you drastically underrate him as a player and he is absolutely capable of driving offense. Of the 16 teams that made the playoffs this year he would have been the 1C on 5 of them (Islanders, Jets, Wild, Kings, Kraken). If you want to call him a 2C on a team like Colorado where they have a perennial superstar at 1C then sure but St. Louis proved that you can absolutely win the cup with a 1C of Lindholm's caliber at center
25 juin 2023 à 11 h 0
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Seattle may very well be interested in Hanifin, but it's likely a non-starter if Evans is involved . . . Evdn more unlikely with only 1 year remaining on Hanifin's deal. Kraken likely to have little interest in Vladar, also.
 
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