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Pitts 14 Again

Créé par: MNBassman
Équipe: 2023-24 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 21 juin 2023
Publié: 21 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This is definitely a win now move for Pitt. Please assess this trade both with and without Granlund being involved…I truly have no idea what his value is…
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 250 000 $
31 250 000 $
33 775 000 $
3775 000 $
2775 000 $
2875 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
2850 000 $
Transactions
1.
MIN
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
Wherever…
DET
  1. Foligno, Marcus
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
2.
MIN
  1. Granlund, Mikael
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
PIT
  1. Hartman, Ryan
  2. Zuccarello, Mats
Détails additionnels:
Upon further review, I took the 2nd and the retention on Zuccarello out of the deal. I didn’t realize how bad Granlund’s contract is…
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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Logo de MIN
2024
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Logo de BUF
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2025
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Logo de TOR
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Logo de MIN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $80 076 088 $0 $850 000 $3 423 912 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
894 167 $894 167 $
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
875 000 $875 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
850 000 $850 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
775 000 $775 000 $
C
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
2 450 000 $2 450 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
925 000 $925 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 775 000 $3 775 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1

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21 juin 2023 à 14 h 21
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I don't think it is unfair value. Not sure Dubas wants to give up the 14th in this strong draft for two rentals and a 2nd. Also have to figure Guerin is rebuilding if he trades away Hartman.
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I don't think it is unfair value. Not sure Dubas wants to give up the 14th in this strong draft for two rentals and a 2nd. Also have to figure Guerin is rebuilding if he trades away Hartman.


For me it's that last part. Seems like a rebuild move for the Wild. I can't imagine that going over well with the lockeroom. The fan base might understand, BUT if you're going to rebuild...don't half A$$ a rebuild. Tear it down all the way or expect to live in playoff purgatory. Always getting in, but never advancing.
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21 juin 2023 à 14 h 24
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I don't think it is unfair value. Not sure Dubas wants to give up the 14th in this strong draft for two rentals and a 2nd. Also have to figure Guerin is rebuilding if he trades away Hartman.


All valid points! I am almost always a far-sighted “GM” but think Dubas would be a moron not to take one more big swing while Crosby, Malkin, and Letang are still relevant!
21 juin 2023 à 14 h 27
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For me it's that last part. Seems like a rebuild move for the Wild. I can't imagine that going over well with the lockeroom. The fan base might understand, BUT if you're going to rebuild...don't half A$$ a rebuild. Tear it down all the way or expect to live in playoff purgatory. Always getting in, but never advancing.


I agree with everything you just said…however, the Wild’s owner, Craig Leipold is old and impatient…and he would never sign off on a total rebuild…even if it is the right thing to do!
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21 juin 2023 à 14 h 27
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All valid points! I am almost always a far-sighted “GM” but think Dubas would be a moron not to take one more big swing while Crosby, Malkin, and Letang are still relevant!


The problem in this scenario is that it is 2024 for the last hurrah then a rebuild is necessary. FSG at least expects to try for the postseason the next two years and then at the earliest start the rebuild when Crosby's contract expires.
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21 juin 2023 à 14 h 29
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The problem in this scenario is that it is 2024 for the last hurrah then a rebuild is necessary. FSG at least expects to try for the postseason the next two years and then at the earliest start the rebuild when Crosby's contract expires.


Both players could be resigned, Zucc at considerably cheaper and Hartman for a fairly considerable raise.
21 juin 2023 à 15 h 2
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I think I’d do this as a pens fan. This takes care of 3 needs in 1 trade. A reasonably priced middle 6 winger, a massive upgrade at 3C for much cheaper than we will find in FA, and gets them out of a Granlund buyout/dead cap situation. It also frees up money for next season when the cap should start to skyrocket making room for Guentzel and Hartman extensions.
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21 juin 2023 à 19 h 22
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Having picks 14, 21 & 53 would be awesome. I don’t really know if it’s worth taking on Granlund’s contract while simultaneously making the team much worse. Also, trading away Kirill’s linemates (including his best friend) and entering a half assed rebuild doesn’t seem like a great idea to me
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21 juin 2023 à 19 h 25
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Strictly talking value here, I wouldn’t add Hartman and Zucc with retention to that Granlund deal. His contract is… not good, to put it nicely
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Strictly talking value here, I wouldn’t add Hartman and Zucc with retention to that Granlund deal. His contract is… not good, to put it nicely


Has his game gone to crap that much? Sad if true. I figured he could find a resurgence playing on a line with Kaprizov, maybe…
21 juin 2023 à 21 h 4
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Has his game gone to crap that much? Sad if true. I figured he could find a resurgence playing on a line with Kaprizov, maybe…


I mean, maybe? But if I were Bill Guerin, I wouldn’t bet on it. Especially at that price
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