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ESPN proposed trade

Créé par: csick
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 21 juin 2023
Publié: 21 juin 2023
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  1. Mazur, Carter
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
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  1. DeBrincat, Alex [Droits de RFA]
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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 23
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I would really hate to lose Carter Mazur, But unfortunately this is the kind of deal it would take to get Alex DeBrincat home without him reaching UFA status next summer.
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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 29
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Greg is an idiot and knows 0 about hockey. The article also says that "we would love to see" not what's fair. Wings aren't giving up mazur that's for sure
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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 29
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Quoting: MoSeider53
I would really hate to lose Carter Mazur, But unfortunately this is the kind of deal it would take to get Alex DeBrincat home without him reaching UFA status next summer.


Wings aren't giving up mazur
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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 29
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Hate to make you realize this but ESPN doesn't have a clue.
21 juin 2023 à 11 h 31
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ESPN and hockey mixes worse than oil and water.
Same group that said Detroit was aiming for a playoff spot last season, and as such, had a disappointing season.
Also are extremely low on our prospects because they aren't one-way forwards who only know how to get points.
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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 32
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is this from the same article that suggested carolina should trade necas and pesce for kuzy?
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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 33
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
ESPN and hockey mixes worse than oil and water.
Same group that said Detroit was aiming for a playoff spot last season, and as such, had a disappointing season.
Also are extremely low on our prospects because they aren't one-way forwards who only know how to get points.


Also, Detroit declines.
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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 33
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Wings aren't giving up mazur


You don't know that for sure, Yzerman hinted that major changes are coming, And he did say it could be very painful. Meaning that it might take players that he doesn't want to normally deal to make trades happen.
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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 33
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Flip the 1st (and Lassi Thomson?) to Flyers for Scott Laughton and the 2nd to Calgary for Daniel Vladar, so it ends up DeBrincat and Thomson for Laughton, Vladar, Mazur and some cap space?
21 juin 2023 à 11 h 33
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Quoting: ecupirate07
is this from the same article that suggested carolina should trade necas and pesce for kuzy?


Probably. ESPN is actually worse than Vs.
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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 35
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You don't know that for sure, Yzerman hinted that major changes are coming, And he did say it could be very painful. Meaning that it might take players that he doesn't want to normally deal to make trades happen.


I do know that trading Mazur (a physical, point producing, middle-6 guy) to an already physically dominant team for a guy whose 5'9" is stupid considering how easily our team turtles when games get physical.
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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 36
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You don't know that for sure, Yzerman hinted that major changes are coming, And he did say it could be very painful. Meaning that it might take players that he doesn't want to normally deal to make trades happen.


He never said that yesterday at all, he said he was building through the core and nucleus and that his picks and prospects are most likely not getting moved unless the deal makes sense. He specifically called out price to acquire a player as well as contract demands which ABD is 7/8 years at 8+ and he doesn't want to hand out these contracts. He loves mazur and this trade is pretty much not happening based on everything he said yesterday
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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 37
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Quoting: MoSeider53
You don't know that for sure, Yzerman hinted that major changes are coming, And he did say it could be very painful. Meaning that it might take players that he doesn't want to normally deal to make trades happen.


when did he hint this?
21 juin 2023 à 11 h 38
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He never said that yesterday at all, he said he was building through the core and nucleus and that his picks and prospects are most likely not getting moved unless the deal makes sense. He specifically called out price to acquire a player as well as contract demands which ABD is 7/8 years at 8+ and he doesn't want to hand out these contracts. He loves mazur and this trade is pretty much not happening based on everything he said yesterday


Any trade proposal with one of our top prospects are moot.
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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 40
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when did he hint this?


At 32:23, Yzerman said "I'm going to trade one of our better prospects that fills both a physical demand and the goal-scoring demand so we can score some more goals. This plan only works if the other team doesn't throw a check"
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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 42
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
At 32:23, Yzerman said "I'm going to trade one of our better prospects that fills both a physical demand and the goal-scoring demand so we can score some more goals. This plan only works if the other team doesn't throw a check"


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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 43
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Quoting: buffbry9108
He never said that yesterday at all, he said he was building through the core and nucleus and that his picks and prospects are most likely not getting moved unless the deal makes sense. He specifically called out price to acquire a player as well as contract demands which ABD is 7/8 years at 8+ and he doesn't want to hand out these contracts. He loves mazur and this trade is pretty much not happening based on everything he said yesterday


Okay on what planet doesn't an Alex DeBrincat deal to Detroit not make sense? He's a local kid that has hinted of wanting to play for his childhood team. He'd be a long term asset not a short term asset. I agree i don't see Yzerman moving Mazur. But he did say he's willing to make moves now and then deal with the consequences later. That basically is telling me that he might have to move players that we don't want to see moved.
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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 46
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espn is horrible....

but Im just not sure theres a huge amount of bidders for Debrincat....Zadina and those picks is what I heard, but theres doesnl;t seem to be a huge amount of suitors for Ottawa to work with.
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when did he hint this?


He said he's willing to make moves now, And deal with the consequences later. Basically half way through his presser. Meaning that he might have to make painful moves that the Wing fans won't like.
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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 47
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Okay on what planet doesn't an Alex DeBrincat deal to Detroit not make sense? He's a local kid that has hinted of wanting to play for his childhood team. He'd be a long term asset not a short term asset. I agree i don't see Yzerman moving Mazur. But he did say he's willing to make moves now and then deal with the consequences later. That basically is telling me that he might have to move players that we don't want to see moved.


The player makes sense; the assets used to acquire said player don't.
A world where we're outscored 12-3 in a back-to-back because our team was scared to even touch the puck and then trading a promising prospect with a lot of physicality for some who's 5'9" is the world where a trade like this makes no sense. That just so happens to be the world we're living in!
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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 48
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espn is horrible....

but Im just not sure theres a huge amount of bidders for Debrincat....Zadina and those picks is what I heard, but theres doesnl;t seem to be a huge amount of suitors for Ottawa to work with.


ESPN, notable for their expert hockey analysis.
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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 51
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The player makes sense; the assets utilized don't.
A world where we're outscored 12-3 in a back-to-back because our team was scared to even touch the puck is where trading a promising prospect with a lot of physicality is the world where a trade like this makes no sense. That just so happens to be the world we're living in!


In the world Yzerman would never ever offer up that kind of package for Alex DeBrincat, Frank Seravalli already said that Yzerman is offering up Filip Zadina and a few miniscule prospects at most.
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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 57
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In the world Yzerman would never ever offer up that kind of package for Alex DeBrincat, Frank Seravalli already said that Yzerman is offering up Filip Zadina and a few miniscule prospects at most.


Yeah so, per the leaks, why would he even entertain this horrendous proposal?
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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 58
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Frank Seravalli thinks a Debrincat trade will be centered around Zadina.
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21 juin 2023 à 12 h 0
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Okay on what planet doesn't an Alex DeBrincat deal to Detroit not make sense? He's a local kid that has hinted of wanting to play for his childhood team. He'd be a long term asset not a short term asset. I agree i don't see Yzerman moving Mazur. But he did say he's willing to make moves now and then deal with the consequences later. That basically is telling me that he might have to move players that we don't want to see moved.


He doesn't want to pay the price nor give out the contract that he ABD wants is how I took it
 
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