Brock Boeser Trade Thoughts

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Créé par: Turkish_Canuck

Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver

Date de création initiale: 21 juin 2023

Publié: 21 juin 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Based on Shayna Goldman proposals in The Athletic:

"Boeser isn’t the most dimensional winger and has some drawbacks to his game. But with a change of scenery, he might play to his strengths more consistently. Though it requires more than cap space to bring him in, a 26-year-old might be worth taking a leap on versus a player who is approaching 30 in free agency — especially when there’s cost certainty in his deal, plus potential cap growth in a year. And even though the Canucks aren’t rushing to move him in some salary-cutting move like they might have been pre-Ekman-Larsson buyout, they’re still probably selling low, which should intrigue teams that think a bounce back could be incoming."

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

CRÉÉ	ANS	CAP HIT
Boeser, Brock	1	6 650 000 $
Boeser, Brock	1	6 650 000 $
Boeser, Brock	1	6 650 000 $
Boeser, Brock	1	6 650 000 $
Boeser, Brock	1	6 650 000 $

Transactions

VAN

Addison, Calen [Droits de RFA]
Foligno, Marcus

Détails additionnels:

Trade relies on Wild making other cap moves to facilitate

MIN

Boeser, Brock
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (VAN)

VAN

Rees, Jamieson
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CAR)

CAR

Boeser, Brock
Rathbone, Jack

VAN

Söderblom, Elmer
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DET)

DET

Boeser, Brock

VAN

Thomson, Lassi
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (OTT)

OTT

Boeser, Brock

VAN

Carter, Jeff
Hållander, Filip [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)

PIT

Boeser, Brock

VAN

Poirier, Jérémie
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CGY)

CGY

Boeser, Brock

Rachats de contrats

Oliver Ekman-Larsson: 146 667 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	83 500 000 $	74 284 583 $	850 000 $	1 347 500 $	9 215 417 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Kuzmenko, Andrei 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2	Miller, J.T. 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ C, AG, AD NMC UFA - 7
Joshua, Dakota 825 000 $825 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Pettersson, Elias 7 350 000 $7 350 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Garland, Conor 4 950 000 $4 950 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 3
Di Giuseppe, Phillip 775 000 $775 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Åman, Nils 883 750 $883 750 $ C RFA - 1	Beauvillier, Anthony 4 150 000 $4 150 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Söderblom, Elmer 878 333 $878 333 $ (57 500 $$58K) AG, C RFA - 2	Dries, Sheldon 762 500 $762 500 $ C UFA - 1	Podkolzin, Vasily 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 1
	Rees, Jamieson 839 167 $839 167 $ C RFA - 1	Studnicka, Jack 762 500 $762 500 $ AD, C RFA - 1
	Carter, Jeff 3 125 000 $3 125 000 $ AD, C NMC UFA - 1	Foligno, Marcus 3 100 000 $3 100 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Hughes, Quinn 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ DG UFA - 4	Myers, Tyler 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Demko, Thatcher 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G UFA - 3
Brisebois, Guillaume 775 000 $775 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Hronek, Filip 4 400 000 $4 400 000 $ DD RFA - 1
Thomson, Lassi 863 333 $863 333 $ (425 000 $$425K) DD RFA - 1
Poirier, Jérémie 823 333 $823 333 $ (15 000 $$15K) DG RFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Mikheyev, Ilya 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 3	Pearson, Tanner 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ AG UFA - 1
		Poolman, Tucker 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2

21 juin 2023 à 6 h 57

evelutions2

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It depends, how much is Vancouver willing to eat on his deal. I don’t mind the Canes trade, but if at all possible, I would be trying to get Vancouver (or another team if need be) to eat a bit of his deal just to create a little bit extra wiggle room for the contract crunch next year. But that’s in an ideal world, and I don’t se the Canes paying more than that.

21 juin 2023 à 7 h 23

RedWing9119

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So his agent had months to set up a deal and couldn't find any takers but now you buyout OEL and suddenly Boesers worth a haul? Detroit passes.

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21 juin 2023 à 7 h 54

JoeROFLCOPTER

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So when did Boeser go from a cap dump to worth a 1st

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21 juin 2023 à 8 h 19

vikhodush

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They had trouble moving him for nothing last year. I get they’re not in the same cap crunch pre OEL buyout but it doesn’t really change Boesers value to rest of league.

I personally think he is a prime bounce back candidate in the right situation. If I’m the canes I might to a Drury for Boeser swap. If VAN retains a bit could throw a mid pick in as well.

21 juin 2023 à 8 h 26

Turkish_Canuck

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Boeser has averaged over 60 points a season over his entire career..

Canucks aren't in cap trouble anymore so have no need to move anyone.

Estimated value for Brock is C+/B- level prospect + 2nd rounder.

21 juin 2023 à 8 h 30

Turkish_Canuck

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Quoting: RedWing9119

So his agent had months to set up a deal and couldn't find any takers but now you buyout OEL and suddenly Boesers worth a haul? Detroit passes.

Find your definition of 'a haul' amusing for a player who has 311 points in 398 games in a consistently awful team.

Widely accepted his value was diminished last season as Canucks were capped out so other teams were looking to take advantage.

21 juin 2023 à 8 h 43

jfkst1

"Go sell ice cream!"

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I don't think Carter is waiving for Vancouver, but I would happily replace him with Granlund and/or Petry. Even add more if needed. Boeser might be one dimensional and a bit overpaid, but he isn't a liability by any means. These lowball offers for him and Garland don't make much sense to me.

21 juin 2023 à 8 h 45

buffbry9108

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Van adds in 11th overall to wings trade and Elmer comes out

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21 juin 2023 à 8 h 48

lowblocksniper

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I'm pretty sure Hallander went back home to Sweden, also the Penguins need all their picks

21 juin 2023 à 8 h 51

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JayTea

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The issue with the Wild acquiring Boeser is their cap is pretty tight and IMO they'd be better served using that cap to try to acquire a center. If they didn't have so much dead cap, Boeser would be a pretty good pickup for them at that price.

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21 juin 2023 à 8 h 51

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JoeROFLCOPTER

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Quoting: Turkish_Canuck

Ambitious. Let's see if that works out for you! (It won't).

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21 juin 2023 à 8 h 55

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Quoting: Turkish_Canuck

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21 juin 2023 à 8 h 58

#13

JoeROFLCOPTER

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Does he just free skate when the puck isn't in the offensive zone????

21 juin 2023 à 8 h 59

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JoeROFLCOPTER

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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

Does he just free skate when the puck isn't in the offensive zone????

He had some of the worst defensive numbers in the league, in case you cannot see the image.

21 juin 2023 à 9 h 0

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buffbry9108

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Quoting: Turkish_Canuck

Bro he hit 60 points once and that was at ND lol , you are way off base here

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21 juin 2023 à 11 h 54

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Turkish_Canuck

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Quoting: buffbry9108

Bro he hit 60 points once and that was at ND lol , you are way off base here

Bro let me help you out with the math...

311 points in 398 games, that's 78.14%.
A normal NHL season is 82 games.
78.14% is 64.08.

Therefore, rounded down he averages 64 points a season.

Hope this helps!

21 juin 2023 à 12 h 2

#17

Turkish_Canuck

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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

He had some of the worst defensive numbers in the league, in case you cannot see the image.

Show me the stats that factor in the fact he was playing on a BRUTAL defensive team?

Only 2 Canucks had a better (lower) On-ice shot attempts against per 60...

He's by no means a defensive stalwart, but he's absolutely not a defensive liability.

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21 juin 2023 à 12 h 3

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buffbry9108

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Quoting: Turkish_Canuck

Let me help you

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That's his points per season, you can slice it however you want and pretend doing math works, but that's not how the nhl works. They look and see he's never got 60 points per season not once in his career, so your post is moot and he will not get you anywhere near what you think

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21 juin 2023 à 12 h 23

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JoeROFLCOPTER

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Quoting: Turkish_Canuck

Damn your defense must stink. Dom's model put him as one of the worst defensive players in the league lmfao. Naturalstattrick isn't as egregiously, but singing almost the same story.

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21 juin 2023 à 12 h 57

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JoeROFLCOPTER

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Quoting: Turkish_Canuck

The best ability is availability.

21 juin 2023 à 13 h 3

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RedWing9119

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Quoting: Turkish_Canuck

Vancouver is still capped out. And you're still not getting anything for him from Detroit. He's overpaid, can't score goals and has no idea where the defensive zone is.

21 juin 2023 à 13 h 10

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CoachCoach

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I’m in the minority here but I wouldn’t mind boeser. Just eye test in limited amounts, but a second line winger who consistently puts up 50+ for 2 years would be welcomed.

Not for Elmer Fudd though

21 juin 2023 à 13 h 14

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I don't hate it. Keep Rathbone just to make it fair.

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