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Defensive bottom 6

Créé par: futurebobmckenzie
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 20 juin 2023
Publié: 20 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
BOS/PIT: Saw a Bruins fan propose this, I don’t hate it

EDM/PIT: Oilers move their expensive backup G with a little bit of retention, a depth forward, and a second while adding an inexpensive backup to Skinner and 2 young players that are cheap and deserve a shot and a 3rd

CHI/PIT: 14th and 30% retained Granlund for 19th, 67th, and Dickinson. Penguins get a bottom 6 center and move back whole Chicago gets to move up and get an even better player to help the rebuild and a middle 6 center that has retention.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
31 250 000 $
21 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
32 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
1800 000 $
33 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
BOS
  1. Nylander, Alexander
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
2.
PIT
  1. Campbell, Jack (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. McKegg, Greg
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
EDM
  1. DeSmith, Casey
  2. Puustinen, Valtteri [Droits de RFA]
  3. Smith, Ty [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (VGK)
3.
PIT
  1. Dickinson, Jason
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CHI)
CHI
  1. Granlund, Mikael (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de TBL
Logo de EDM
Logo de CHI
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de FLA
Logo de TOR
2024
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
2025
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $77 960 592 $0 $0 $5 539 408 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Bruins de Boston
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
762 500 $762 500 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 5
Logo de Bruins de Boston
3 687 500 $3 687 500 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
825 000 $825 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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20 juin 2023 à 12 h 32
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cant imagine why the Bruins would do that trade, just getting nothing of value for two important players. I get the cap implications, but it's just poor asset management
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20 juin 2023 à 12 h 34
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Honestly, don't retain on Granlund. It seems counter productive. You could also ask the hawks for retention on Dickison and creat an additional ~$3M in cap space. I'd prefer the previous trade over this one with 2nds going to PIT vs the #19.
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20 juin 2023 à 12 h 37
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No enough offense in the bottom six in my opinion. Pens need to support Sid and Geno more these days, and not rely on them so much. They should try to have the 4 line approach but 3 lines who can legit score and the 4th line to be physical, youth etc...
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20 juin 2023 à 12 h 41
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Quoting: LPProductions
cant imagine why the Bruins would do that trade, just getting nothing of value for two important players. I get the cap implications, but it's just poor asset management


I saw it proposed by a B’s fan so I just went with it
20 juin 2023 à 12 h 45
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EDM should be all over that, highly doubt Holland has the stones to accept his mistake regarding Campbell.
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20 juin 2023 à 12 h 52
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Hawks decline. Can't see them giving up a 3rd and Dickinson for some retention on Granny. Not even sure they take Granny to move up 5 spots.
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20 juin 2023 à 13 h 19
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EDM should be all over that, highly doubt Holland has the stones to accept his mistake regarding Campbell.


No? He's been pretty quick to admit his mistakes in the past.
20 juin 2023 à 13 h 25
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“Three bad deals for Pittsburgh.”
20 juin 2023 à 13 h 42
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Boston does not take that deal, idc if a B's fan posted that, they get much better value for both players separately.

That EDM deal is terrible, and if the pens trade Granlund they're not retaining on him, buyout at that point.
20 juin 2023 à 14 h 33
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Quoting: CD282
No? He's been pretty quick to admit his mistakes in the past.


Edmonton mistakes:
Athanasiou, yes (didn't qualify him rightfully so and moved on from a over priced qualifying offer)
JP, kinda (dealt him in season, could argue that they should have moved on in the summer when he had some value)
Kassian, no (played 2 full seasons on the terrible $3.2M deal)
Yamo, TBD
Nurse, TBD
Campbell, TBD

I'd say he could be better, but to each his own.
I'm sure the Detroit fans would argue that the last few seasons of Holland were full of mistakes that weren't admitted too or dealt with.
20 juin 2023 à 17 h 8
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Edmonton mistakes:
Athanasiou, yes (didn't qualify him rightfully so and moved on from a over priced qualifying offer)
JP, kinda (dealt him in season, could argue that they should have moved on in the summer when he had some value)
Kassian, no (played 2 full seasons on the terrible $3.2M deal)
Yamo, TBD
Nurse, TBD
Campbell, TBD

I'd say he could be better, but to each his own.
I'm sure the Detroit fans would argue that the last few seasons of Holland were full of mistakes that weren't admitted too or dealt with.

Signing Nurse was a mistake? I can't imagine the team without him. And Yamamoto earned that contract with a stellar 21-22 campaign. Holland's "mistake" was not knowing the future... pretty tough standard to hold a guy to.
20 juin 2023 à 17 h 51
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Signing Nurse was a mistake? I can't imagine the team without him. And Yamamoto earned that contract with a stellar 21-22 campaign. Holland's "mistake" was not knowing the future... pretty tough standard to hold a guy to.


The 2nd Bridge to Overpay on Nurse is Hollands mistake, fair that its not his fault we've been stuck with a flat cap since 2020. But thats one of a few mistakes
20 juin 2023 à 18 h 10
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Signing Nurse was a mistake? I can't imagine the team without him. And Yamamoto earned that contract with a stellar 21-22 campaign. Holland's "mistake" was not knowing the future... pretty tough standard to hold a guy to.


As for Yamo, I'm waiting for that shoe to drop before I render full judgement. In my opinion $3.1M x 2 was an overpayment (Jordan Kyrou signed $2.8M x 2) but I understand that he and JP were tied together and after signing JP to a $3.0M there was no way Yamo was going to come in under that number. If they buyout Yamo = massive fail, they need to get a pick or prospect back at a minimum.

Furthermore, last offseason was a mistake in my mind with regards to Yamo and JP, they needed to pick one and proceed. It would have maybe saved them a couple points on the overall cap hit and allowed them to go long term on Mcleod.
 
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