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Créé par: jonh514

Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 19 juin 2023

Publié: 19 juin 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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14 OA seems gettable. It's gonna cost us something of course, but this pick could be the steal of the draft

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MTL

Granlund, Mikael
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)

Détails additionnels:

Habs take on a sizeable cap dump
14 OA

PIT

Evans, Jake
Kovacevic, Johnathan
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)

Détails additionnels:

Habs send back a useful bottom 6 center in Evans and a useful bottom pair defender in Kovacevic
Habs also send a couple of picks back

MTL

PIT

Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

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TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
19	83 500 000 $	70 257 499 $	1 170 000 $	4 195 000 $	13 242 501 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hoffman, Mike 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 7	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Pitlick, Rem 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Dvorak, Christian 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2
Pezzetta, Michael 812 500 $812 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 3	Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
	Granlund, Mikael 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 4

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Allen, Jake 1 925 000 $1 925 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Edmundson, Joel 875 000 $875 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Barron, Justin 925 000 $925 000 $ (275 000 $$275K) DD RFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Harris, Jordan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 2	Wideman, Chris 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Caufield, Cole 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
	Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 2
	Xhekaj, Arber 828 333 $828 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 1

19 juin 2023 à 18 h 9

BestGMBenning

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Chicago should send their 1st overall pick to trade Seth Jones

Rags a aimé ceci.

19 juin 2023 à 18 h 11

PensGMwannabe

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Pens easily decline. If you're offering a 4th line forward and 6th d man to dump Granlund. Pens will just buy him out for $833K toward the cap this season. Bad trade offer.

Rags, Pensfan303, jonh514 and 1 other person a aimé ceci.

19 juin 2023 à 18 h 41

jonh514

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Quoting: PensGMwannabe

Pens easily decline. If you're offering a 4th line forward and 6th d man to dump Granlund. Pens will just buy him out for $833K toward the cap this season. Bad trade offer.

Always reject the first offer, I like your style. How about now?

19 juin 2023 à 18 h 41

jonh514

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Quoting: BestGMBenning

Chicago should send their 1st overall pick to trade Seth Jones

Not quite the same level of prospect, but I feel you. How about the offer now?

19 juin 2023 à 18 h 47

FarhanLuigi

OldSLIMEfan

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Quoting: PensGMwannabe

Pens easily decline. If you're offering a 4th line forward and 6th d man to dump Granlund. Pens will just buy him out for $833K toward the cap this season. Bad trade offer.

You have also easily decided to ignore the 1.833M in the following 3 years starting in 2024. Its not 800k. That is only this season. 2M dead cap each season in the cup window isnt agreeable.

Its a more than reasonable deal when Theathletic mock draft is trading the same 14 overall pick for the 31st pick. 2 2nds and a 3rd plus two useful pieces, You'd be a really bad manager not get rid of that dead cap at that price.

V1NnY2 a aimé ceci.

19 juin 2023 à 18 h 57

F50marco

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I honestly think the Habs getting the 14ov for the 31, 37 and 3rd 2024 was a fair scenario to begin with. I actually think Granlund still has something to offer but he has to be put in the right circumstance. MTL IMO is that right spot.

Id gladly do

Granlund + 14ov
For
Hoffman + 31ov+37ov

Habs move up and get a player who i think can rebound with MTL. Pitt gets the cheaper buyout player if they choose to do so and the two picks that theyd want for the 14ov.

19 juin 2023 à 19 h 6

jfkst1

"Go sell ice cream!"

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PIT could easily send Granlund and the 14th overall to a rebuilding team like Arizona and get back a quality player like Schmaltz or Moser. Getting back spare parts is a stupid trade for them.

19 juin 2023 à 20 h 53

PensGMwannabe

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Quoting: KyleDubasWWEFAN

Cap is going also going up to offset the buyout, if they go that way. Even so, the 14th overall isn't worth it. The juice ain't worth the squeeze...

19 juin 2023 à 20 h 56

BestGMBenning

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Quoting: jfkst1

PIT could easily send Granlund and the 14th overall to a rebuilding team like Arizona and get back a quality player like Schmaltz or Moser. Getting back spare parts is a stupid trade for them.

Arizona would likely decline if it involves taking any cap back. The only cap they’ll take on is if they don’t have to trade any asset unless if they are LTIRetired players

19 juin 2023 à 21 h 26

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jfkst1

"Go sell ice cream!"

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Quoting: BestGMBenning

Arizona would likely decline if it involves taking any cap back. The only cap they’ll take on is if they don’t have to trade any asset unless if they are LTIRetired players

They would be gaining real money with Schmaltz leaving and a future asset. And I'm merely presenting an example of what would be a palatable for Dubas. This deal is brain dead.

20 juin 2023 à 20 h 49

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BestGMBenning

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Quoting: jfkst1

They would be gaining real money with Schmaltz leaving and a future asset. And I'm merely presenting an example of what would be a palatable for Dubas. This deal is brain dead.

It’s completely understandable to believe Ari would take cap back to make trades work. But they didn’t want to take on anyone when it came to Chychrun. Which is stupid cause they can easily gain more draft capital

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