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ARZ if we lived in the land of OZ hahaha

Créé par: Billy739
Équipe: 2023-24 Coyotes de l'Arizona
Date de création initiale: 19 juin 2023
Publié: 19 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Forgot to add an explanation to the first trade
Too lazy to redo it so im posting it below :

MTL trades down getting a Power Forward Center not quite at the level of the 5th OA prospect but close enough with the picks received.
Hughes was a finalist in the Mcbain sweepstakes so you know he's interested in the NHL's #4 Hitter in the NHL as a rookie no less. (12 goals too)

ARZ does it to help capture Bedard
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3950 000 $
3850 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 450 000 $
2850 000 $
21 125 000 $
1950 000 $
32 950 000 $
21 350 000 $
2975 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
44 500 000 $
21 500 000 $
1800 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Bedard, Connor
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
ARI
  1. Ylönen, Jesse [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
5th OA
101st OA
MTL
  1. McBain, Jack [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (ARI)
Détails additionnels:
12th OA
38th OA
2.
ARI
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
29th OA
STL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (ARI)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
The better 2 of ARZ 2nd round picks next year and pick 81 in 2023
3.
ARI
  1. Girard, Samuel
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
Moser 7 goals 31 points in 82 games in his 2nd year Pro. The 6ft mobile defensman is not Arbitration eligible for another year after this contract giving COL control over contract negotiations

COL drops 4m without losing skill as i expect JJ on a team that isnt the worst in the league will thrive even more taking another step forward this year.

Dobber Projects him as a 2nd pair guy. Elite Prospects commends his Hockey smarts. There's really no negative value here outside he's in ARZ lol
COL
  1. Moser, J.J.
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
Conditional 2nd becomes a 1st if JJ Moser hasnt topped his current career high by at least 10 points (so needs 41 points)

COL dumps cap without losing skill while getting younger ,bigger and has the odds at getting back a 1st that might be better then theirs now if this deal falls apart on ARZ
4.
ARI
  1. Petry, Jeff
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
14th OA

PIT moves Petry 6.25m x 2 off their books by moving down 15 spots in the draft in 2023
PIT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
29th OA
5.
ARI
  1. Olivier, Mathieu [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
3rd OA

CBJ give up Carlson or Smith i just dont see them gambling on a Russian right now but i digress, So they'll lose 2nd line Centers long term .

Well they get a 1st line Forward on a great contract
22 year old Middle 6 Center Prospect
27th OA pick trading down 24 spots
CBJ
  1. Jeník, Jan
  2. Keller, Clayton
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
Keller who needs no introductions or hype

Jenik a 2 year old AHL Call up playing big minutes in the AHL

27th OA
6.
ARI
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
1st OA
CHI
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (ARI)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (FLA)
Détails additionnels:
3rd OA
5th OA
6th OA
2024 2nd round pick Conditional 1st if 1/3 doesnt start more then 9 games in the NHL and Bedard does then this becomes a 1st in 2024 unprotected
7.
ARI
  1. Blackwood, Mackenzie [Droits de RFA]
NJD
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (COL)
8.
ARI
  1. Saros, Juuse
Détails additionnels:
ARZ gets a Starter and back up he can hopefully mentor like he did Lanakinen in NSH
NSH
  1. Vejmelka, Karel
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Added Vejmelka cause i get mixed reactions from NSH fans wanting to keep Askarov in the AHL 1 more year. Vejmelka gives them that option with 2 goalies tandem who can absorb 82 games worth of play

NSH gets a top 15 pick for Saros which is easily going to be the best offer in terms of Quality in a 1st round pick return
9.
ARI
  1. Chiarot, Ben
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (DET)
Détails additionnels:
41st OA and taking 1 year of Nemeth at nearly half the cap to clear 3 years of Chiarot
DET
  1. Nemeth, Patrik
Détails additionnels:
Chiarot gives ARZ Depth and a Dman who will clear his Goalies crease riding anyone bothering him into the ground. Paired with 6'5 brown this will be a really physical pairing that will get its minutes on special teams and 3rd pair.

He's another guys who can put up 15-20 points while providing a protection to the star players ARZ just heavily invested in going forward.
Rachats de contrats
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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Logo de DET
Logo de ARI
Logo de EDM
Logo de WSH
Logo de ARI
Logo de MTL
Logo de ARI
Logo de VGK
Logo de ARI
Logo de CBJ
2024
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Logo de WSH
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Logo de EDM
Logo de ARI
Logo de SJS
Logo de ARI
Logo de ARI
Logo de ARI
Logo de BOS
2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $77 570 060 $0 $1 700 000 $5 929 940 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 300 000 $4 300 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Bedard, Connor
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
950 000 $950 000 $
C
RFA - 3
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
5 850 000 $5 850 000 $
AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
3 450 000 $3 450 000 $
AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
1 775 000 $1 775 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
975 000 $975 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
1 275 000 $1 275 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
5 291 667 $5 291 667 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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19 juin 2023 à 9 h 32
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Let me pull back the curtain for you. Avs wouldn't add a 1st to downgrade in Dmen. No need to pay to move cap this season. This was a new one though!
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19 juin 2023 à 9 h 37
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Honestly souch wrong with this, Habs and Columbus both laugh at those offers, Chicago probably takes that package if it was available and in the end I think it's still Nashville who laughs the hardest
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19 juin 2023 à 9 h 40
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Wtf is that COL trade. Girard is 24, plays 20+ minutes a game and scores 30pts a season with no PP1 time. A good comp is Hronek who was just traded for a 1st and 2nd. COL isn’t doing that trade for Girard straight up even if they needed cap space. You do realize COL has $20M in cap space. Next time don’t just make up stuff to justify a horrible trade.
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19 juin 2023 à 9 h 40
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Quoting: MeetYourMakar
Let me pull back the curtain for you. Avs wouldn't add a 1st to downgrade in Dmen. No need to pay to move cap this season. This was a new one though!

I can say Girard is slightly better and older
But dont sleep on Moser just cause you think the trades bad, he's a stud
19 juin 2023 à 9 h 44
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Wtf is that COL trade. Girard is 24, plays 20+ minutes a game and scores 30pts a season with no PP1 time. A good comp is Hronek who was just traded for a 1st and 2nd. COL isn’t doing that trade for Girard straight up even if they needed cap space. You do realize COL has $20M in cap space. Next time don’t just make up stuff to justify a horrible trade.


Moser is 22 , Plays 20+ minutes a game scores 30 pts a season and is productive on PP time with 11 pts there.
He's 6'1 and a mobile D who blocks a ton of shots like Girard


Close to the same except Moser is younger, bigger and has more room to grow into a 40 point player

Next time speak like an adult or get spoken to like a ****
I have no problem with mature civil discourse
People overcompensating in life i got no time for
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19 juin 2023 à 9 h 45
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I can say Girard is slightly better and older
But dont sleep on Moser just cause you think the trades bad, he's a stud


I didn't sleep on him. I guess dont sleep on Girard? Confused . Avs announcer mentions him more than most Avs players lol(similar names). Many Dmen come in and have a flash start of their career(Butcher, Smith, That guy you forgot about) that aren't able to put it all together year after year like Girard and play top 4min on a cup winner. Moser is a good piece but not worth the Avs trading for. Edit: At this time. If Toews or Byram make Girard the piece to move, then yes I would look at a Girard-Moser trade but no 1st from the Avs and probably Yotes add.
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19 juin 2023 à 9 h 50
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Quoting: Billy739
Moser is 22 , Plays 20+ minutes a game scores 30 pts a season and is productive on PP time with 11 pts there.
He's 6'1 and a mobile D who blocks a ton of shots like Girard


Close to the same except Moser is younger, bigger and has more room to grow into a 40 point player

Next time speak like an adult or get spoken to like a ****
I have no problem with mature civil discourse
People overcompensating in life i got no time for


Moser is 23 got destroyed defensively like seriously like a 44CF, is listed at a whopping 5lbs more than Girard and let’s be honest he played a bunch of minutes and is part of the reason AZ is Az and Girard playing 20+ minutes is part of the reason COL is COL. Next time you get but hurt about an idiotic trade have all of your facts right.
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19 juin 2023 à 9 h 51
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Honestly souch wrong with this, Habs and Columbus both laugh at those offers, Chicago probably takes that package if it was available and in the end I think it's still Nashville who laughs the hardest


Habs Fan , we take that and run
If you dont know Mcbain or how bad Hughes wanted him
Then i wouldnt try speaking for todays GM as alots changed since you left with Subban, MB is gone .

Mcbain is a big Power Forward Center who hits a ton and scores goals
Caufield-Suzuki-Dach
Slafkovsky-Mcbain-Anderson

Speed and size with a ton of goal scoring from snipers to garbage goal players, its covered.
We'd have 12th OA pick and there's still quality there whether it be Benson or Dvorsky or Leonard or ASP,ext that fall out of the top 10 and past VAN at 11th .
I'd do that trade although in hindsight Ylonen was overkill and probably shouldnt have been included

The rest of the trades though are half a**ed
The goal was to show what it would take to make ARZ not suck lol
19 juin 2023 à 9 h 56
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Moser is 23 got destroyed defensively like seriously like a 44CF, is listed at a whopping 5lbs more than Girard and let’s be honest he played a bunch of minutes and is part of the reason AZ is Az and Girard playing 20+ minutes is part of the reason COL is COL. Next time you get but hurt about an idiotic trade have all of your facts right.


I stated the facts , you elaborated . . SMH
Nothing you said negates what i said just paints a broader picture . . .
Most adults coulda had this conversation without Projecting their issues onto strangers in public

Next time act like an Adult and people will treat you with respect
As it stands all i see is someone who sits to pee and has to overcompensate in life lashing out at strangers over fictional trades to make himself feel like a bigger person then he clearly is.

Be the Glass Half Full guy instead of the Alternative
Cause the Alternative's Annoyingly Needy
19 juin 2023 à 10 h 19
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The blues would decline tbh. They probably prefer picks this year and we already have two seconds in 2024.
19 juin 2023 à 10 h 38
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Blues pass.
19 juin 2023 à 13 h 6
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I stated the facts , you elaborated . . SMH
Nothing you said negates what i said just paints a broader picture . . .
Most adults coulda had this conversation without Projecting their issues onto strangers in public

Next time act like an Adult and people will treat you with respect
As it stands all i see is someone who sits to pee and has to overcompensate in life lashing out at strangers over fictional trades to make himself feel like a bigger person then he clearly is.

Be the Glass Half Full guy instead of the Alternative
Cause the Alternative's Annoyingly Needy

I bet you are so much fun being the social police. So instead of taking your criticism about a god awful ill informed trade you double down and act infantile.
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19 juin 2023 à 17 h 58
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Avs decline.
 
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