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Créé par: YeahDudeitsChris
Équipe: 2023-24 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 18 juin 2023
Publié: 18 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Don't yell at me.
And, Anybody got comps for similar trades?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
88 750 000 $
31 500 000 $
31 000 000 $
43 750 000 $
31 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
MIN
  1. Daws, Nico
  2. Holtz, Alexander
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
2.
NJD
  1. Henrique, Adam (2 800 000 $ retained)
ANA
  1. Clarke, Graeme
  2. Vanecek, Vitek
  3. Vukojevic, Michael
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
3.
WSH
  1. Sharangovich, Yegor [Droits de RFA]
  2. Stillman, Chase
  3. Vilén, Topias
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
4.
NJD
  1. Colton, Ross [Droits de RFA]
TBL
  1. Lazar, Curtis
  2. Salminen, Samu [Liste de réserve]
  3. Walsh, Reilly [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Rachats de contrats
Frais appliqués
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de NJD
Logo de NJD
Logo de NJD
2024
Logo de NJD
Logo de COL
Logo de NJD
2025
Logo de NJD
Logo de NJD
Logo de NJD
Logo de NJD
Logo de NJD
Logo de NJD
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $75 722 083 $422 500 $5 057 500 $7 777 917 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
8 750 000 $8 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Capitals de Washington
5 166 667 $5 166 667 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 8
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
-1 343 750 $-1 343 750 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
863 333 $863 333 $
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
850 833 $850 833 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance3 250 000 $$3M)
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 1

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18 juin 2023 à 7 h 27
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Wallstedt is more important to us than any of those pieces could ever be. Our goalie of the future. You'd have to really step up with a quality offer to get our attention.

You really want our top prospect? Give us yours.
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18 juin 2023 à 7 h 37
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Which gives TB the better chance of winning this year Colton or that pile of 💩? Picks mean little to nothing, Walsh is useless to TB log jammed at RD,Lazar whatever quantity doesn't equal quality. This trad starts with Bahl from TBs perspective or it doesn't happen.
18 juin 2023 à 7 h 38
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Wallstedt is more important to us than any of those pieces could ever be. Our goalie of the future. You'd have to really step up with a quality offer to get our attention.

You really want our top prospect? Give us yours.


I mean, Holtz is our top forward prospect and is supposed to be a 30+ G scorer, Daws will likely be a serviceable starter and just played in the AHL all-star game, A First, and likely a high third since Calgary might blow it up and rebuild
18 juin 2023 à 7 h 39
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Caps are trying to retool and stay competitive. Tom Wilson is a unicorn in the league and they aren't trading him for a bunch of mid players and low draft picks
18 juin 2023 à 7 h 41
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I would think something around Gustavson would be more likely from a Wild perspective.
18 juin 2023 à 7 h 45
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I mean, Holtz is our top forward prospect and is supposed to be a 30+ G scorer, Daws will likely be a serviceable starter and just played in the AHL all-star game, A First, and likely a high third since Calgary might blow it up and rebuild


That's a lot of stuff, yes, but nothing in the package screams a good deal. How would you react if Minnesota offered you Liam Öhgren, Jack Peart, a 1st, and a 3rd for Luke Hughes?
18 juin 2023 à 7 h 48
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That's a lot of stuff, yes, but nothing in the package screams a good deal. How would you react if Minnesota offered you Liam Öhgren, Jack Peart, a 1st, and a 3rd for Luke Hughes?


Except goalie prospects are a crapshoot. Luke Hughes is a top 2 prospect in hockey, Wallstadt doesn't have that value. His value is much closer to Holtz than it is Hughes
18 juin 2023 à 7 h 59
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Except goalie prospects are a crapshoot. Luke Hughes is a top 2 prospect in hockey, Wallstadt doesn't have that value. His value is much closer to Holtz than it is Hughes


Goalies in general are a crapshoot but Wallstedt is the #1 goalie prospect in the world. You can't get a more sure thing than him. If Wallstedt doesn't have extreme value, there is no point for us to trade him. You don't trade a dollar for four quarters.

The point is, we are more than happy to keep him unless you blow us away with an offer. This doesn't do it.
18 juin 2023 à 8 h 2
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Goalies in general are a crapshoot but Wallstedt is the #1 goalie prospect in the world. You can't get a more sure thing than him. If Wallstedt doesn't have extreme value, there is no point for us to trade him. You don't trade a dollar for four quarters.

The point is, we are more than happy to keep him unless you blow us away with an offer. This doesn't do it.


Wallstedt is not definitively the top 1. Levi, Askarov, Wolf are all in the discussion and could EASILY turn out better. Goalie prospects are hard to place but I doubt if you included Wallstedt he'd be in the top 10 value wise
18 juin 2023 à 8 h 7
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Wallstedt is not definitively the top 1. Levi, Askarov, Wolf are all in the discussion and could EASILY turn out better. Goalie prospects are hard to place but I doubt if you included Wallstedt he'd be in the top 10 value wise


If Levi, Askarov, and Wolf are better prospects, go after them instead. You might even get them for a cheaper price! I don't get why you would try to talk down on Wallstedt and then try to acquire him. You certainly place a lot of value on him. But Minnesota knows the talent they have and is not going to give it away for peanuts.
18 juin 2023 à 9 h 12
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If Levi, Askarov, and Wolf are better prospects, go after them instead. You might even get them for a cheaper price! I don't get why you would try to talk down on Wallstedt and then try to acquire him. You certainly place a lot of value on him. But Minnesota knows the talent they have and is not going to give it away for peanuts.


I didn't make this post and I wouldn't make that trade. Goalie prospects, like I said, are a crapshoot and I'm not trading for them
18 juin 2023 à 10 h 22
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You really want our top prospect? Give us yours.


Not going to defend this offer, since I agree it’s not a particularly good one, but this implies that guys like Fabian Lysell would be worth the same as Wallstedt, Nemec, Hutson or Wright, because they’re each respective systems’ top prospects?
18 juin 2023 à 11 h 57
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Minnesota isn't trading wallstedt. With all due respect, you offered nothing to Minnesota to even consider this. No from Minnesota Wild. Wallstedt isn't Available
18 juin 2023 à 11 h 59
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I mean, Holtz is our top forward prospect and is supposed to be a 30+ G scorer, Daws will likely be a serviceable starter and just played in the AHL all-star game, A First, and likely a high third since Calgary might blow it up and rebuild


Minnesota is the last team needing a winger prospect. And then you think offering a 2024 1st round pick and lesser G prospect would get Wallstedt? No. It would cost you Dawson and more. You literally offered nothing. It's not that serious but you don't understand Wallstedt worth or what Minnesota would need
18 juin 2023 à 12 h 41
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The price for Wallstedt is whatever you think is unreasonable and then add a little bit more. The Wild have no reason to move him.
 
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