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Throwing Sh and Seeing What Sticks

Créé par: mferraro
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 13 juin 2023
Publié: 13 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
24 000 000 $
2850 000 $
2925 000 $
31 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
4850 000 $
55 000 000 $
12 500 000 $
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1.
TOR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
2.
TOR
  1. Backlund, Mikael (2 350 000 $ retained)
  2. Hanifin, Noah
3.
TOR
  1. Garland, Conor (1 450 000 $ retained)
VAN
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
4.
TOR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
ANA
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
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2383 500 000 $79 669 084 $0 $0 $3 830 916 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
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NMC
UFA - 1
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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RFA - 2
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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UFA - 3
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
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UFA - 1
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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796 667 $796 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1

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13 juin 2023 à 19 h 46
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GO FLAMES GO
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Calgary isn't doing that
13 juin 2023 à 19 h 49
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Canucks aren’t retaining for 3 years
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13 juin 2023 à 19 h 53
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Quoting: mv21227
Canucks aren’t retaining for 3 years


And no one is taking that contract at 3 years 5m, never mind giving up an asset for it.

You guys can suck on the full contract for 3 years though.
13 juin 2023 à 19 h 54
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Quoting: mferraro
And no one is taking that contract at 3 years 5m, never mind giving up an asset for it.

You guys can suck on the full contract for 3 years though.


I have no problem keeping a good 2nd line winger at a 2nd line players salary for 3 years
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13 juin 2023 à 19 h 55
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Leafs accept all 4. Not sure any of the other teams do though. Calgary trade would be close though. Anaheim trade is close but I don't think they pull the trigger. Montreal would really need to like the guy at 28 to pull off that trade. Vancouver trade is the furthest off I believe. I don't want Garland unless he is 3.5m or less but at that point his value would be worth more than 2 x 3rds.
13 juin 2023 à 19 h 57
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First round bust
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Calgary isn't doing that


Yeah we are. I think you're overvaluing Backlund, and Hanifin here. They're both very good players, but not quite at the level Nylander is. If the management can re-sign him it's a win for the Flames. The salary retention probably goes against this club's ownership, more likely a 3rd team could be used for that.
13 juin 2023 à 19 h 58
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GO FLAMES GO
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Quoting: Bast
Yeah we are. I think you're overvaluing Backlund, and Hanifin here. They're both very good players, but not quite at the level Nylander is. If the management can re-sign him it's a win for the Flames. The salary retention probably goes against this club's ownership, more likely a 3rd team could be used for that.


Retention is the only reason I said no. That would make our cap situation worse
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13 juin 2023 à 19 h 58
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
Leafs accept all 4. Not sure any of the other teams do though. Calgary trade would be close though. Anaheim trade is close but I don't think they pull the trigger. Montreal would really need to like the guy at 28 to pull off that trade. Vancouver trade is the furthest off I believe. I don't want Garland unless he is 3.5m or less but at that point his value would be worth more than 2 x 3rds.


I'm a Leafs fan so I will of course be biased. Just spit balling ideas and rosters here.

That's the going rate for moving up roughly 10 spots. And its assumed anyone trading up is trading for a player they like.
13 juin 2023 à 20 h 0
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Retention is the only reason I said no. That would make our cap situation worse


Taking on 400k in cap. If you're passing on a 40 goal scorer because of that idk what to say. There are other ways to shed salary around your roster.
13 juin 2023 à 20 h 33
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PDG over PDO
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Canucks aren't doing that
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13 juin 2023 à 20 h 34
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Quoting: mferraro
And no one is taking that contract at 3 years 5m, never mind giving up an asset for it.

You guys can suck on the full contract for 3 years though.


It's a totally fine contract. Certainly not a worry if you like the player. The league has gone a bit haywire trying to get the Canucks to give up all these assets to take decent players. You could send that much salary back though maybe. Make it Timmins straight up for Garland and I'd probably do it.
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13 juin 2023 à 20 h 55
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That’s going to be a no from Anaheim
13 juin 2023 à 21 h 2
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
That’s going to be a no from Anaheim


Ana paid 7m to get a 4th rd pick 2 years away. They ain’t getting kings ransom for 3.5m cap for 1 year.
13 juin 2023 à 21 h 4
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The habs deal they might do it but it depends on the draft

Anaheim it will cost more to dump murray
The Flames deal is really bad for Calgary, like tf

On the other hand.. i don't know for garland, vancouver either pays to dump him or retains its hard to know
13 juin 2023 à 21 h 5
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Calgary isn't doing that


either you’re the most biased flames fan i’ve ever encountered or you’ve lost your mind, that’s a steal for the flames
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13 juin 2023 à 21 h 8
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either you’re the most biased flames fan i’ve ever encountered or you’ve lost your mind, that’s a steal for the flames


They also don't have the cap and why trading one of their best dman, they already have problems with overprices fowards ( Huberdeau) and their best pk guy

Just trade Nylander to a team who can gives you better assets and fits the team more than cgy
13 juin 2023 à 21 h 9
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Quoting: nepTrystan
The habs deal they might do it but it depends on the draft

Anaheim it will cost more to dump murray
The Flames deal is really bad for Calgary, like tf

On the other hand.. i don't know for garland, vancouver either pays to dump him or retains its hard to know


If you think that trade is bad for Calgary then you're just undervaluing Nylander. He ain't going for free and he's sure as heck more valuable than Hanifin. Both these guys will probably not be on their team post trade deadline.
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13 juin 2023 à 21 h 10
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Quoting: nepTrystan
They also don't have the cap and why trading one of their best dman, they already have problems with overprices fowards ( Huberdeau) and their best pk guy

Just trade Nylander to a team who can gives you better assets and fits the team more than cgy


Hanifin ain't re-signing there. So they are gonna lose him regardless.
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13 juin 2023 à 21 h 18
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Quoting: mferraro
If you think that trade is bad for Calgary then you're just undervaluing Nylander. He ain't going for free and he's sure as heck more valuable than Hanifin. Both these guys will probably not be on their team post trade deadline.


The fit isn't there tbh, they have great prospects comming, they need to make room and Nylander will block that
13 juin 2023 à 21 h 19
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Calgary isn't doing that


Neither is Toronto
13 juin 2023 à 21 h 23
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Quoting: Newtown
Neither is Toronto


I could have put Nylander for Backlund and flames fans would need a pick back.
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13 juin 2023 à 21 h 33
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Quoting: nepTrystan
They also don't have the cap and why trading one of their best dman, they already have problems with overprices fowards ( Huberdeau) and their best pk guy

Just trade Nylander to a team who can gives you better assets and fits the team more than cgy


you need your brain examined, nylander has one of the best contracts in the NHL, he’s a 9M+ dollar forward making 6.9. flames are already trying to move hanifin, that’s been widely reported
13 juin 2023 à 21 h 34
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Quoting: mferraro
I could have put Nylander for Backlund and flames fans would need a pick back.


yeah that would be awfull for the leafs lmao
13 juin 2023 à 21 h 35
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Quoting: bhunt333
you need your brain examined, nylander has one of the best contracts in the NHL, he’s a 9M+ dollar forward making 6.9. flames are already trying to move hanifin, that’s been widely reported


I didn't know for Hannifin tho, if it's true, then its more a loltoronto, i just don't see both teams doing that trade, i just think toronto should look at annother teams and trying to get more drafts and young assets
13 juin 2023 à 21 h 37
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Quoting: nepTrystan
I didn't know for Hannifin tho, if it's true, then its more a loltoronto, i just don't see both teams doing that trade, i just think toronto should look at annother teams and trying to get more drafts and young assets

😭 if they move nylander it will be for something that makes the team better, whether that’s a lateral move or pieces they acquire to go out and acquire something better, if you think the flames wouldn’t do that you’re on crack
 
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