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Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 9 juin 2023
Publié: 9 juin 2023
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The Leafs have an opportunity this summer to accumulate draft picks by trading away Brodie and Nylander, both of whom have one year left and likely won't be re-signed next year. With Treliving's decent drafting history, especially early on in his role as GM of the Flames, it would make sense for the Leafs to start adding more prospects. Dubas drafted well with the picks he had but there aren't enough high-end prospects in the system. Since Matthews and Marner are still young, there is no need to rush. Stanley cup teams are built at the draft table, not at free agency or the trade deadline. Vegas is a special exception.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
23 400 000 $
2925 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 400 000 $
32 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
55 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
35 500 000 $
36 500 000 $
43 500 000 $
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TOR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (PHI)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
BUF
  1. Brodie, TJ
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TOR
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (COL)
COL
    Avs acquire the rights to UFA ROR.
    3.
    TOR
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (VGK)
    PIT
      Pens acquire the rights to UFA Mike Bunting.
      4.
      TOR
      1. Gunler, Noel
      2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
      3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
      CAR
      1. Nylander, William
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      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2383 500 000 $82 756 584 $0 $12 500 $743 416 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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      Exempté du ballottageKnies, Matthew
      925 000 $925 000 $
      AG, AD
      RFA - 2
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      Matthews, Auston
      11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      Kane, Patrick
      5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 1
      Barbashev, Ivan
      5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 5
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      Tavares, John
      11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
      C, AG
      NMC
      UFA - 2
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      Marner, Mitchell
      10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
      AD
      NMC
      UFA - 2
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      Lafferty, Sam
      1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
      AD, C, AG
      UFA - 1
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      Holmberg, Pontus
      925 000 $925 000 $
      C, AG
      RFA - 2
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      Järnkrok, Calle
      2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
      AD, C, AG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
      Lucic, Milan
      1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
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      Acciari, Noel
      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 3
      Perry, Corey
      1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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      Rielly, Morgan
      7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
      DG
      NMC
      UFA - 7
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      Schenn, Luke
      1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 3
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      Samsonov, Ilya
      3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
      Orlov, Dmitry
      6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 2
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      Liljegren, Timothy
      1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
      DD
      RFA - 1
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      Woll, Joseph
      766 667 $766 667 $
      G
      RFA - 2
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      McCabe, Jake
      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      DG/DD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Soucy, Carson
      3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 3
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
      Giordano, Mark
      800 000 $800 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
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      Muzzin, Jake
      5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
      DG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
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      Exempté du ballottageRobertson, Nicholas
      796 667 $796 667 $
      AG, AD
      RFA - 1
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      Exempté du ballottageGunler, Noel
      862 500 $862 500 $ (Bonis de performance12 500 $$12K)
      AD, AG
      RFA - 2

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      9 juin 2023 à 22 h 8
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      djmbrown
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      I agree with trading those guys away. One problem is the human side of things. Treliving traded Brodie away from Calgary so I’m not sure he will want to do it to the guy again. But who knows. Also, I’d stay away from Kane.
      9 juin 2023 à 22 h 9
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      Canes do this in a heart beat
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      9 juin 2023 à 22 h 17
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      I don't think the UFA rights for either guy would be that much.
      9 juin 2023 à 22 h 21
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      Quoting: Victor24
      I don't think the UFA rights for either guy would be that much.


      This UFA class is weak, and these two are impactful top six forwards. If a team really wants one of these guys it could happen.
      9 juin 2023 à 22 h 35
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      Pens decline. Unless it’s a sign and trade where the pens get the 8th year in the contract, they don’t take that chance and just wait til free agency. Honestly, even with the 8th year they’d have no reason to do it. If the core was still in their prime and gonna play for 8 more years then maybe, but they aren’t.
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      9 juin 2023 à 22 h 58
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      RoR is an option for Colorado for sure, but I dont think they need a head start on those conversations
      9 juin 2023 à 23 h 8
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      Quoting: KingExLeafs
      This UFA class is weak, and these two are impactful top six forwards. If a team really wants one of these guys it could happen.


      Yeah but when UFA rights are traded the guys are game changers or the picks are low. A 3rd would be for a guy like Matthews, not Bunting
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      9 juin 2023 à 23 h 17
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      Yeah but when UFA rights are traded the guys are game changers or the picks are low. A 3rd would be for a guy like Matthews, not Bunting


      Severson's rights just got traded for a 3rd from Columbus.
      9 juin 2023 à 23 h 49
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      Quoting: KingExLeafs
      Severson's rights just got traded for a 3rd from Columbus.


      this was a sign and trade. For the second time ever. NJ was more involved than just UFA rights. It's just not the same
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      10 juin 2023 à 0 h 10
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      Buffalo declines, Brodie isn’t bad but we have zero reason to give you that much for him.
      10 juin 2023 à 0 h 13
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      Quoting: Victor24
      Yeah but when UFA rights are traded the guys are game changers or the picks are low. A 3rd would be for a guy like Matthews, not Bunting


      Neither are that vital of acquisitions for the respective teams. ROR is good but he’s old and is unlikely to be seen as a top tier UFA.

      Bunting is good but not 3rd rounder to talk good. Severson was considered the best dman on the market by a margin and thus NJ could use that. Bunting and ROR don’t exist in a similar position
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      10 juin 2023 à 0 h 16
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      Quoting: KingExLeafs
      Severson's rights just got traded for a 3rd from Columbus.


      Quoting: thewookie1
      Neither are that vital of acquisitions for the respective teams. ROR is good but he’s old and is unlikely to be seen as a top tier UFA.

      Bunting is good but not 3rd rounder to talk good. Severson was considered the best dman on the market by a margin and thus NJ could use that. Bunting and ROR don’t exist in a similar position


      Hey KingExLeafs, new plan. Let the wookie win.
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      10 juin 2023 à 0 h 27
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      Your logic escapes me, any player picked in this year’s or next year’s draft is 3-5 years away from having a significant impact at nhl level. Matthew’s will be 30, Marner 31 & Reilly 34. Ridiculous, every team needs prospects but when you are a contender - you don’t trade away valuable roster pieces to build up your prospect pool 🤦🏻
      10 juin 2023 à 0 h 48
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      Quoting: MitchJr
      Your logic escapes me, any player picked in this year’s or next year’s draft is 3-5 years away from having a significant impact at nhl level. Matthew’s will be 30, Marner 31 & Reilly 34. Ridiculous, every team needs prospects but when you are a contender - you don’t trade away valuable roster pieces to build up your prospect pool 🤦🏻


      You want Nylander and Brodie to walk for nothing next season? I think this is better asset management. And if a draft goes well, it won't take 3-5 years. Knies was selected in the 2021 draft and he's probably on the 1st line next year. Leafs need more young guys on ELCs.
      10 juin 2023 à 1 h 29
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      Quoting: KingExLeafs
      You want Nylander and Brodie to walk for nothing next season? I think this is better asset management. And if a draft goes well, it won't take 3-5 years. Knies was selected in the 2021 draft and he's probably on the 1st line next year. Leafs need more young guys on ELCs.


      Brodie is 33; yes - let him walk or sign him to a spezza like extension. You want to trade Matthews or Marner (next year)? Who says Willy is going to walk? There could be a deal signed July 1; neither of us know but I do know trading them both makes us a worse team next year which is my top priority
      10 juin 2023 à 1 h 32
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      Quoting: MitchJr
      Brodie is 33; yes - let him walk or sign him to a spezza like extension. You want to trade Matthews or Marner (next year)? Who says Willy is going to walk? There could be a deal signed July 1; neither of us know but I do know trading them both makes us a worse team next year which is my top priority


      I don't think this team has a chance of winning if all three of Nylander, Marner and Matthews are kept. The money has to be spread around to have a more balanced roster. Matthews and Marner are impossible to replace so they should stay long-term, but Nylander is more replaceable.

      As for Brodie, his game has dropped off significantly. I can see Treliving trading him this summer.
      10 juin 2023 à 1 h 34
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      Quoting: KingExLeafs
      I don't think this team has a chance of winning if all three of Nylander, Marner and Matthews are kept. The money has to be spread around to have a more balanced roster. Matthews and Marner are impossible to replace so they should stay long-term, but Nylander is more replaceable.

      As for Brodie, his game has dropped off significantly. I can see Treliving trading him this summer.


      The cap will be $87.5 M in 24-25, even higher year after when JT comes off the books. No guarantees, but they can absolutely win with those 3
      10 juin 2023 à 3 h 30
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      With the Avs being as light on picks as they are I think they'll wait and take their chances on ROR's availability.
      10 juin 2023 à 13 h 24
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      Quoting: djmbrown
      I agree with trading those guys away. One problem is the human side of things. Treliving traded Brodie away from Calgary so I’m not sure he will want to do it to the guy again. But who knows. Also, I’d stay away from Kane.


      Brodie wasn't traded he left in free agency. Treliving may not have an issue with trading him now.
       
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