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Sens 2023 summer moves

Créé par: Jimmy_Stu
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 5 juin 2023
Publié: 5 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Rate the moves! Write what you would change if you disagree, don't just say those moves are ridiculous, I think they are close enough to be fair for both sides.

Also... the 2023 Stanley Cup final sucks!
GOSENSGO
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
34 250 000 $
54 500 000 $
21 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Lafrenière, Alexis4 250 000 $
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024
Transactions
1.
OTT
  1. Swayman, Jeremy [Droits de RFA]
BOS
  1. Pinto, Shane [Droits de RFA]
2.
NYR
  1. Brännström, Erik [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Either do this trade or offer sheet Lafrenière.

For ppl who think Brannstrom is an under pay for Kakko, you guys just havent seen him play, he's way more impressive than Chabot
3.
OTT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DET)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (DET)
DET
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [Droits de RFA]
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de DET
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Logo de OTT
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Logo de OTT
Logo de NSH
Logo de NYR
2024
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
Logo de TBL
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
2025
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $83 054 047 $0 $1 850 000 $445 953 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 350 000 $8 350 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 2
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
7 950 000 $7 950 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
835 000 $835 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
916 667 $916 667 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
762 500 $762 500 $
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 2

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5 juin 2023 à 13 h 45
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Detroit declines
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5 juin 2023 à 13 h 46
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Detroit declines


Yea it would be a better trade for a team that needs a top scoring winger like calgary
5 juin 2023 à 13 h 47
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Yea it would be a better trade for a team that needs a top scoring winger like calgary


Wings need it, but they aren't paying more than what Ottawa did for him.
5 juin 2023 à 13 h 48
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Yea it would be a better trade for a team that needs a top scoring winger like calgary


he wont sign in Calgary. Best teams to trade him to are Washington, Pitt or Carolina. Isles could be in the mix but they dont have much to offer. Rangers would also if they had a cap space. Hes gonna end up in the metro
5 juin 2023 à 13 h 49
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Good luck with the Laf offersheet cause this isn’t interesting for Kakko at all. Plus our defense is set for the top 5 spots already. Not giving up Kakko for an upgrade at # 6.
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5 juin 2023 à 13 h 56
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These are all awful. Brannstrom isn't worth kakko and is another ofd the ranger don't need. I doubt Detroit trade the 9th pick for Debrincat. And no chance Boston takes pinto for swayman.
5 juin 2023 à 13 h 56
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You would have to give up a first and a third for laffy. Since he has not broken out yet I don't think that's worth it.
5 juin 2023 à 13 h 58
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These are all awful. Brannstrom isn't worth kakko and is another ofd the ranger don't need. I doubt Detroit trade the 9th pick for Debrincat. And no chance Boston takes pinto for swayman.


you mean no chance the Sens give up Pinto for Swayman*
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5 juin 2023 à 13 h 59
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You should probably know the needs of the team you're trading with before you try trading with them. The Rangers don't need another smallish LD and their biggest need is at RW in the top 6, since Kakko is all they have at the moment. So trading him for LD make ZERO sense for the Rangers. Also, Kakko is worth way more than that anyway.

Also, good luck with the Laffy offersheet, its pure fantasy and nonsense.
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5 juin 2023 à 14 h 2
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Wings pass
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5 juin 2023 à 14 h 3
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you mean no chance the Sens give up Pinto for Swayman*


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5 juin 2023 à 14 h 4
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If the Sens offer this I'd assume the bruins would jump at it given that we already have Ullmark and an obvious need for young centers.
5 juin 2023 à 14 h 17
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Funny how every other team’s fan base wants the rangers “bust” players
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5 juin 2023 à 14 h 18
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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
These are all awful. Brannstrom isn't worth kakko and is another ofd the ranger don't need. I doubt Detroit trade the 9th pick for Debrincat. And no chance Boston takes pinto for swayman.


I think it's the other way round tbh, bruins would probably jump at the chance at adding a promising young center while only sacrificing Swayman.
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5 juin 2023 à 14 h 22
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Detroit declines


What would you do? Detroit needs more scoring guys...?
5 juin 2023 à 14 h 23
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Wings need it, but they aren't paying more than what Ottawa did for him.


THAT IS LESS THAN WHAT THEY PAID
5 juin 2023 à 14 h 24
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What would you do? Detroit needs more scoring guys...?


17+43+3rd.
We need more scoring guys, but i don't think we should to overpay to get them.
5 juin 2023 à 14 h 24
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I think it's the other way round tbh, bruins would probably jump at the chance at adding a promising young center while only sacrificing Swayman.


Not really, Swayman has starter potential so they wouldn't (or shouldn't) "jump" at the chance. It's something to think about but this isn't a one-sided deal. Sure, you're adding a young center... at the expense of a potential starting G.
5 juin 2023 à 14 h 25
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THAT IS LESS THAN WHAT THEY PAID


In a vacuum yeah lol.
If you think 7OA in '22 and 9OA in '23 have similar-valued prospects you'd be dead wrong.
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5 juin 2023 à 14 h 26
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In a vacuum maybe lol.
If you think 7OA in '22 and 9OA in '23 have similar-valued prospects you'd be dead wrong.


Korchinski and Dragicevic have a very similar D0 draft year.
Korchinski went 7OA and is a LHD.
Dragicevic, whose also a RHD, isn't projected to go until the late 1st. Granted, Dragicevic' defensive game is worse, but not to the extent that if he was equal to Korchinski he maybe goes mid-late teens.
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5 juin 2023 à 14 h 29
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Quoting: Onlyfairtrades1
You should probably know the needs of the team you're trading with before you try trading with them. The Rangers don't need another smallish LD and their biggest need is at RW in the top 6, since Kakko is all they have at the moment. So trading him for LD make ZERO sense for the Rangers. Also, Kakko is worth way more than that anyway.

Also, good luck with the Laffy offersheet, its pure fantasy and nonsense.


Well I can only think teams are gonna get interested in Laff, cz NYR cant really pay Laff and Miller without making a sacrifice, which is the entire bottom 6
5 juin 2023 à 14 h 32
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Wings aren't moving 9OA for DeBrincat
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5 juin 2023 à 14 h 34
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
17+43+3rd.
We need more scoring guys, but i don't think we should to overpay to get them.


17th pick, plus the 43rd, plus a 3rd? That is very less than what OTT paid to get him (7th, 39th, and a 3rd)
I put the 9th and 41st pick, no 3rd, I think that pretty fair.
I've seen a lot of your comments and you don't seem to get the term "fair"
5 juin 2023 à 14 h 35
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Not really, Swayman has starter potential so they wouldn't (or shouldn't) "jump" at the chance. It's something to think about but this isn't a one-sided deal. Sure, you're adding a young center... at the expense of a potential starting G.


Pinto is a future 2nd center, I actually think he's gonna be there in a year or 2
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5 juin 2023 à 14 h 40
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17th pick, plus the 43rd, plus a 3rd? That is very less than what OTT paid to get him (7th, 39th, and a 3rd)
I put the 9th and 41st pick, no 3rd, I think that pretty fair.
I've seen a lot of your comments and you don't seem to get the term "fair"


Thank you, Jimmy_Stu! Just like you, I have bias towards my team's assets. Unlike you, though, I'm able to understand that draft classes aren't the same throughout the years.

Despite what you think, 17O+2nd+3rd in '23 (a better class than '22) is at least on the same level, if not better, as 7OA+2nd+3rd in '22 (a worse class than '23!).

I told you what I think is fair, which is paying less than what Ottawa paid for a player who got more expensive and recessed.
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