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Realistic Potential Leafs Lineup

Créé par: YouHaveToBeLeaf
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 2 juin 2023
Publié: 2 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
No Major Moves. Murray's contract needs to be moved. Depth from within the organization needs to be utilized eventually, why not this year? No committing to long-term deals due to the cap-situation, but need SOME commitment to the team (3-year deals max). By then, the Tavares deal is up (in 2 years). Bunting, Kampf, O'Reilly, Acciari, Schenn, Samsonov back (Holmberg too). And we trust the young talent to contribute. Calm, cool, collected moves. Left with about $300k in cap space (and that is with having 14 players on the roster) to help alleviate some of the pressure if injuries occur, as well as help at the trade-deadline (especially if someone goes on LTIR).
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 000 000 $
2950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
3850 000 $
31 400 000 $
32 750 000 $
26 250 000 $
32 250 000 $
Transactions
TOR
  1. Kurashev, Philipp [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (CHI)
CHI
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2483 500 000 $83 196 450 $0 $0 $303 550 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
796 667 $796 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
845 833 $845 833 $
C, AG
RFA - 3
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950 000 $950 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
856 667 $856 667 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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2 juin 2023 à 14 h 4
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In what world does Kampf get more than Bunting?
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2 juin 2023 à 14 h 9
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“Realistic” but signs Bunting for 1.75x3
2 juin 2023 à 14 h 13
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I would be reluctant to give up on Kurachev as I think he has some room to grow into a really good 3rd liner in the 20G/40P range. Murray, the BOS 1st, and the '24 Chicago 5th for Kurachev would get me closer to maybe yes (I really want more season of Kurachev to see what he might be though).
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2 juin 2023 à 14 h 14
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Quoting: mv21227
“Realistic” but signs Bunting for 1.75x3


Seriously, Bunting is a UFA, he gets minimum 3.5M offer elsewhere.

O'Reilly is likely signing a 4-5 year deal, given his age I don't think he signs the two year deal unless the AAV is ridiculously high.
2 juin 2023 à 14 h 15
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No way it costs a 1st to move Murray; bunting gets way more than that - probably elsewhere. Not sure we need ROR (too slow and we have Tavare) but agree with your general premise. Nothing too radical this off season, a few key returnees (Sammy of course, Kampf, Acciari and maybe Schenn) augmented by bigger ticket FAs (I’d target Compher + Soucy?)
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2 juin 2023 à 14 h 29
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Quoting: MitchJr
No way it costs a 1st to move Murray; bunting gets way more than that - probably elsewhere. Not sure we need ROR (too slow and we have Tavare) but agree with your general premise. Nothing too radical this off season, a few key returnees (Sammy of course, Kampf, Acciari and maybe Schenn) augmented by bigger ticket FAs (I’d target Compher + Soucy?)


It's not costing you a 1st to move Murray in this proposal. Hawks decline anyways because Kurashev has a future with the team. He's 23 years old with almost 200 NHL games played already and has wheels. There aren't many skaters faster than him in the league.
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2 juin 2023 à 14 h 37
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Quoting: MitchJr
No way it costs a 1st to move Murray; bunting gets way more than that - probably elsewhere. Not sure we need ROR (too slow and we have Tavare) but agree with your general premise. Nothing too radical this off season, a few key returnees (Sammy of course, Kampf, Acciari and maybe Schenn) augmented by bigger ticket FAs (I’d target Compher + Soucy?)


Where is it costing a 1st to move Murray? This AGM has Kurachev going back. Most AGM's involving Murray are the Boston first for a 2nd (from the ludicrous Hawks 2nd to the NYR 2nd and the 2 in between). Kurachev has put up back to back 20 point seasons and has a pretty well round game at 23. My guess is the creater of this AGM values Kurachev more than a mid to late 2nd and that is the offset to the Boston 1st. Honestly Kurachev for a win before guys start hitting UFA (or age to much more with Tavares) team makes more sense than a 2nd that you'll be waiting 2 or 3 years to arrive with a chance they never arrive or are not even as good as Kurachev.
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2 juin 2023 à 14 h 43
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Quoting: wojohawk
Where is it costing a 1st to move Murray? This AGM has Kurachev going back. Most AGM's involving Murray are the Boston first for a 2nd (from the ludicrous Hawks 2nd to the NYR 2nd and the 2 in between). Kurachev has put up back to back 20 point seasons and has a pretty well round game at 23. My guess is the creater of this AGM values Kurachev more than a mid to late 2nd and that is the offset to the Boston 1st. Honestly Kurachev for a win before guys start hitting UFA (or age to much more with Tavares) team makes more sense than a 2nd that you'll be waiting 2 or 3 years to arrive with a chance they never arrive or are not even as good as Kurachev.


Quoting: JK74
It's not costing you a 1st to move Murray in this proposal. Hawks decline anyways because Kurashev has a future with the team. He's 23 years old with almost 200 NHL games played already and has wheels. There aren't many skaters faster than him in the league.


Thank you, had no idea who Kurashev was (don’t follow the hawks closely), thought he was just a make weight.
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2 juin 2023 à 14 h 57
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It's not costing you a 1st to move Murray in this proposal. Hawks decline anyways because Kurashev has a future with the team. He's 23 years old with almost 200 NHL games played already and has wheels. There aren't many skaters faster than him in the league.


Said it earlier....I would be real reluctant to move Kurashev. It probably boils down to where we are at on an extension. I would absolutely love locking him in for 4 or 5 years to gamble a little that he outperforms the last couplle of years. 2-2.5 for 4-5 years could be a shrewed move for the Hawks. Overpay a bit in the first year or two compared to beating him up as an RFA year by year when cap space is not a concern, with the hope/expectation that he is a 40 point middle 6 on a bargain contract for the last couple years where cap starts to matter if Bedard and all the other high picks work as hoped.
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2 juin 2023 à 14 h 57
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Quoting: snaper3819
In what world does Kampf get more than Bunting?


Kampf plays a huge role in shutting down opposition's top guys, as well as face-off duties in the d-zone, and penalty killing. I'd keep him over Bunting any day.
2 juin 2023 à 14 h 58
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“Realistic” but signs Bunting for 1.75x3


Drop one of those dudes to the minors and bump it up to 2.5million. Does not really matter does it? There's cap room. Bunting is not a necessity to be honest.
2 juin 2023 à 14 h 59
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Quoting: OilersRule
Seriously, Bunting is a UFA, he gets minimum 3.5M offer elsewhere.

O'Reilly is likely signing a 4-5 year deal, given his age I don't think he signs the two year deal unless the AAV is ridiculously high.


So first, Bunting is overrated, and now that he needs a new contract, he's worth all this money? Funny how that works.
2 juin 2023 à 15 h 1
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Quoting: MitchJr
No way it costs a 1st to move Murray; bunting gets way more than that - probably elsewhere. Not sure we need ROR (too slow and we have Tavare) but agree with your general premise. Nothing too radical this off season, a few key returnees (Sammy of course, Kampf, Acciari and maybe Schenn) augmented by bigger ticket FAs (I’d target Compher + Soucy?)


Wish we could keep ROR, he fits so well with us. I would also love to have a guy like Soucy. Thanks for the input!
2 juin 2023 à 15 h 3
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Quoting: wojohawk
Said it earlier....I would be real reluctant to move Kurashev. It probably boils down to where we are at on an extension. I would absolutely love locking him in for 4 or 5 years to gamble a little that he outperforms the last couplle of years. 2-2.5 for 4-5 years could be a shrewed move for the Hawks. Overpay a bit in the first year or two compared to beating him up as an RFA year by year when cap space is not a concern, with the hope/expectation that he is a 40 point middle 6 on a bargain contract for the last couple years where cap starts to matter if Bedard and all the other high picks work as hoped.


I can see that. If they can get him locked up for longer term I would definitely gamble a bit on his AAV.
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2 juin 2023 à 15 h 16
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Quoting: YouHaveToBeLeaf
Kampf plays a huge role in shutting down opposition's top guys, as well as face-off duties in the d-zone, and penalty killing. I'd keep him over Bunting any day.


I have the same opinion.... but it doesn't mean Bunting makes less in the open market.

Before playoffs he was rumored to be getting 5 x $4-5M. No way he gets less than $3.5. Max kampf gets is $2.5 per.
2 juin 2023 à 15 h 34
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Quoting: snaper3819
I have the same opinion.... but it doesn't mean Bunting makes less in the open market.

Before playoffs he was rumored to be getting 5 x $4-5M. No way he gets less than $3.5. Max kampf gets is $2.5 per.


Again, the point here is kind of to show that even with Kampf making that much, we still have enough cap space. Keeping Bunting is not really necessary either.
2 juin 2023 à 19 h 52
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So first, Bunting is overrated, and now that he needs a new contract, he's worth all this money? Funny how that works.


When did I say he was overrated.

earlier in the season I figured he was in the 4.5-5 range.... 3.5 is right where he belongs.

Paying him pennies = homerism.
 
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