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Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 1 juin 2023
Publié: 1 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2900 000 $
33 500 000 $
22 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
43 800 000 $
44 700 000 $
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1.
TOR
  1. Manson, Josh
  2. Newhook, Alex [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
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TOR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
CHI
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. Crouse, Lawson (2 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Keller, Clayton
ARI
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
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NMC
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
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RFA - 2
3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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7 150 000 $7 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
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2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
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UFA - 4
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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RFA - 4
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
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AG, AD
RFA - 1
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RFA - 2
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UFA - 3
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NMC
UFA - 7
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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NTC
UFA - 3
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
4 700 000 $4 700 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
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UFA - 1
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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1 juin 2023 à 19 h 34
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I’m down for that trade as a Chicago fan, but it doesn’t seem like a realistic or appropriate use of a 2024 first round pick.
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1 juin 2023 à 19 h 36
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Garbage late picks don't get Crouse and Keller. Offer isn't even close for both players.
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1 juin 2023 à 19 h 37
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Quoting: Kyle_Davidson
I’m down for that trade as a Chicago fan, but it doesn’t seem like a realistic or appropriate use of a 2024 first round pick.

Basically the Mrazek trade again.

And I think an early 2nd in this years draft may be more valuable than a late first in 2024.
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1 juin 2023 à 19 h 38
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Bad Marner trade geez

No way Arizona takes those late picks
1 juin 2023 à 19 h 39
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Garbage late picks don't get Crouse and Keller. Offer isn't even close for both players.

Under normal circumstances I'd agree, and the offer does likely remain low.

But this is the deepest draft in years, and likely will be for a while. Arizona is also going to be pressured to move them, as any quality NHL player will refuse to play at ASU.
1 juin 2023 à 19 h 40
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Quoting: Kyle_Davidson
I’m down for that trade as a Chicago fan, but it doesn’t seem like a realistic or appropriate use of a 2024 first round pick.


I'm not down for that deal... pick in the same round, or no deal from my perspective... Hawks will want to trade that pick up in this draft. Might do the NYR 2nd though.
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1 juin 2023 à 19 h 42
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I'm not down for that deal... pick in the same round, or no deal from my perspective... Hawks will want to trade that pick up in this draft. Might do the NYR 2nd though.

I think you should read it again 😅
1 juin 2023 à 19 h 43
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Under normal circumstances I'd agree, and the offer does likely remain low.

But this is the deepest draft in years, and likely will be for a while. Arizona is also going to be pressured to move them, as any quality NHL player will refuse to play at ASU.


Picks are 27th and 28th overall, Detroit could give up the 9th and 17th for Keller and not even bat an eyelash. No way Arizona accepts that offer.
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Bad Marner trade geez

No way Arizona takes those late picks

That's what moving a $10.9M cap hit looks like.
1 juin 2023 à 19 h 43
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Picks are 27th and 28th overall, Detroit could give up the 9th and 17th for Keller and not even bat an eyelash. No way Arizona accepts that offer.

Fine I'll start again 🙄
1 juin 2023 à 19 h 45
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I think you should read it again 😅


I did, you have the 2023 Ottawa 2nd for Murray and the Leafs 2024 1st... if the Hawks are trading that early of a pick they will want a better 2023 pick. They might consider the NRY 2023 2nd, and take the 2024 1st...
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1 juin 2023 à 19 h 46
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I think you should read it again 😅


Ok, I see what you are pointing out... meant draft not round...
1 juin 2023 à 19 h 46
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Quoting: RicXX
I'm not down for that deal... pick in the same round, or no deal from my perspective... Hawks will want to trade that pick up in this draft. Might do the NYR 2nd though.


We have a ton of 2nd round picks so I’m not AS concerned about what round or position the exact pick we are giving up is. Sure I would love to give up the NYR or Tampa pick, but I also believe in spreading out the picks and a 2024 1st > our 62nd 2023 2nd:
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1 juin 2023 à 19 h 50
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Quoting: Kyle_Davidson
We have a ton of 2nd round picks so I’m not AS concerned about what round or position the exact pick we are giving up is. Sure I would love to give up the NYR or Tampa pick, but I also believe in spreading out the picks and a 2024 1st > our 62nd 2023 2nd:


Yes one of the later 2nd rd picks, I would agree with, but not the top 2, unless it's in this draft.
1 juin 2023 à 19 h 53
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Yes one of the later 2nd rd picks, I would agree with, but not the top 2, unless it's in this draft.


The position of the 2nd would likely depend on when in the draft the trade occurs. Basically it’s a game of timing and who blinks first. I would be happy as long as it’s not our 2nd.
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1 juin 2023 à 19 h 55
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Under normal circumstances I'd agree, and the offer does likely remain low.

But this is the deepest draft in years, and likely will be for a while. Arizona is also going to be pressured to move them, as any quality NHL player will refuse to play at ASU.


The fact that Arizona will be pressured to move Keller and Crouse doesn't mean that they'll have to sell them at below-market prices. SOME team will be happy to offer more than a first and a second for Keller, and another team will be thrilled to offer more than a first for Crouse with retention.
1 juin 2023 à 19 h 59
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COL isn’t taking a $10M forward off of the TML
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1 juin 2023 à 20 h 8
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That's what moving a $10.9M cap hit looks like.


Then what does moving a superstar player look like
Would you trade McDavid for the same cuz hes a 12.5M player?
1 juin 2023 à 20 h 29
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Horrid for Arizona.......Horrid for Leafs in the Colorado trade.
2 juin 2023 à 14 h 4
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Then what does moving a superstar player look like
Would you trade McDavid for the same cuz hes a 12.5M player?

Marner isn't McDavid 😂
2 juin 2023 à 14 h 29
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Marner isn't McDavid 😂


lol i know but would u trade mcd for less than hes worth cuz he has a 12.5M cap hit?
of course not smile
2 juin 2023 à 18 h 1
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lol i know but would u trade mcd for less than hes worth cuz he has a 12.5M cap hit?
of course not smile

No, but Marner's value undeniably takes a dip due to his cap hit.

One is overpaid, the other underpaid.
2 juin 2023 à 21 h 46
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Easy no for the Avs. Can't afford, don't want and don't need Marner.
2 juin 2023 à 21 h 55
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Marner is one of the top players in the league. A 26 year old 100 point Selke finalist.
 
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