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Connor and Schmaltz

Créé par: AlTintin1122
Équipe: 2023-24 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 29 mai 2023
Publié: 30 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
24 000 000 $
13 000 000 $
13 000 000 $
23 000 000 $
Transactions
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ARI
  1. Suzuki, Ryan
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
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WPG
  1. Honka, Anttoni
  2. Necas, Martin
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $81 511 441 $450 000 $500 000 $1 988 559 $
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8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
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5 850 000 $5 850 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
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7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 6
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4 820 000 $4 820 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD
RFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
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5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
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UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
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RFA - 1
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
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UFA - 1
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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800 000 $800 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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839 167 $839 167 $
C
RFA - 1

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30 mai 2023 à 9 h 24
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Schmaltz sure.

BIG BIG Pass on that Winnipeg deal. Connor had 9 more points than Necas and is 2 years older and cannot play center. Necas is straight up a more valuable piece than Connor when you factor in Necas makes 1/2 of what Connor does, is an RFA on expiry so still team controlled, and is just a way better skater

If you want to go "oh goal scorer!" he had 3 more goals than Necas
30 mai 2023 à 9 h 54
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Schmaltz sure.

BIG BIG Pass on that Winnipeg deal. Connor had 9 more points than Necas and is 2 years older and cannot play center. Necas is straight up a more valuable piece than Connor when you factor in Necas makes 1/2 of what Connor does, is an RFA on expiry so still team controlled, and is just a way better skater

If you want to go "oh goal scorer!" he had 3 more goals than Necas


Yes, he only had 3 more goals then Marty but that was a down year for Kyle. He is a 40-50 goal scorer. Last year Kyle racked up more assists then usual.
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30 mai 2023 à 10 h 10
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The commenter you responded to does not represent the thoughts and opinions of the rest of the Canes fans.

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Yes, he only had 3 more goals then Marty but that was a down year for Kyle. He is a 40-50 goal scorer. Last year Kyle racked up more assists then usual.
30 mai 2023 à 10 h 11
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Yes, he only had 3 more goals then Marty but that was a down year for Kyle. He is a 40-50 goal scorer. Last year Kyle racked up more assists then usual.


Connor has had 1 season where he broke the 40 goal mark. I have major reservations. Sure, you can argue he's a 35 goal scorer, but even so, Necas had 28 this last year in a major breakout year. I'm not trying to say anything bad about Kyle Connor, I would love him in Raleigh, but I think it's pretty clear Necas has more value at this moment
30 mai 2023 à 10 h 36
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Connor has had 1 season where he broke the 40 goal mark. I have major reservations. Sure, you can argue he's a 35 goal scorer, but even so, Necas had 28 this last year in a major breakout year. I'm not trying to say anything bad about Kyle Connor, I would love him in Raleigh, but I think it's pretty clear Necas has more value at this moment


Kyle's contract gives him more value. He is a first-line forward locked in at a little over 7M for 3 more years. Cost-controlled players are a premium in the flat-cap world. Necas will probably only sign short term since the cap will rise soon... and what is the chance he would want to sign in WPG. The trade makes sense for CAR only. A huge no from WPG.
30 mai 2023 à 11 h 11
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The commenter you responded to does not represent the thoughts and opinions of the rest of the Canes fans.


I second this
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30 mai 2023 à 11 h 15
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Canes accept both these trades, but I don't think the other teams involved would approve
30 mai 2023 à 11 h 19
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I do think you're overpaying for Staal and Pat, I think they'll take less. I think Gost will get offered more elsewhere and will not be worth the bidding war.

Freddy is a bit of an overpay as well, but can live with that
30 mai 2023 à 11 h 27
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Kyle's contract gives him more value. He is a first-line forward locked in at a little over 7M for 3 more years. Cost-controlled players are a premium in the flat-cap world. Necas will probably only sign short term since the cap will rise soon... and what is the chance he would want to sign in WPG. The trade makes sense for CAR only. A huge no from WPG.


Necas is an RFA, he doesn't have much choice. The younger center than was barely outproduced has more value than the winger here. Necas is a 1st line winger making 3 million. You argue Connor's deal is worth more in a flat cap, except next year the cap won't be flat. It's expected to jump drastically. That means, Connor's value is nice, but Necas' 3 million and RFA expiry are worth more this year and equally as much on expiry. This doesn't make sense for Carolina. If you're Winnipeg, you take this and run, makes no sense for Carolina
 
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