get lost

And why would the Blues ever consider that?

Vrana is found money. Army says no. Bert already turned down 5 years 6 mil AAV from Detroit. He scored 10 points in 7 playoff games for Boston. His price went up. He might take that contract to stay in Boston.

Blues decline. We have vrana for cheap next year. Hope he can rebuild his value and sell him for a good price at the deadline or sign him to an extension. No need for us to give him up for Smith who is having trouble breaking/staying in the NHL and a 3rd round pick

How about no on the Vrana trade.

you guys got vrana for nothing. I'm giving you a nice dman with a lot of upside and a nice pick. sure your gm will consider.

that is exactly what you are doing. you already rebuilt his value and that is why I'm giving up smith and a pick

yeah but I don't think anybody is giving up more than 6-6.5 to Bert. and pit is not Detroit, if he wants to try and win might as well

You're giving us a small offensive D who can't defend and is careening toward bust status and a late 3rd deferred a year while asking for a young cheap top 6 winger WITH retention. Why would the Blues ever consider this nonsense? Get serious, man. I'm not saying Vrana is untouchable, but that offer is weeeeeeeeak. No chance.

Nice dman on a 1 way ticket to Bustville. That's why you're trying to pawn him off.

I guess we see it differently. nobody is giving you 1sts or 2nds for vrana and you have a very wrong idea on smith... the only reason he didn't play in pit was cuz of the cap, he is not a bust at all

Says you. All it takes is 1 GM to pay Bert what he wants. Term is most important to him. And I like Detroit's future much more than the Pens future.

why even do that deal. blues dont want it and honestly idk id say pens fans wouldnt even want it. why are you trading ty smith he has been good and will be good when given his chance

only reason smith wasnt called up was because of cap

no it is just cuz I already have a similar player in poj, I'd rather keep him. doesn't make smith bad lol

He's closer to being a bust than warranting a Vrana type return.

i guess that I see pit keeping only one of smith and poj. they are both very good but very similar.

Makes sense. POJ is a future Norris winner.

Ah ok. Still not interested in smith at the expense of Vrana

Hahaha right! Because Pittsburgh's D rotation was so impenetrable this season. It's a trash offer that gives the Blues nothing they want and takes away what they do want. Obviously.

the kids 23 and had 23 points in 48 games as a rookie! he had a "bad" second year and has been good in the ahl this szn. He will 100% be in the lineup full time and in my opinion would have been playing instead dumo for the second half of this year if it wasn't for cap issues

peterson - letang
smith - petry
poj - rutta

thats without even making trades or signing ufa's. no reason to trade smith in my eyes

prolly would play on your top pairing so yes I'd say so

Then why trade him? He's Makar's Doppelganger!

yeah I see your point, but I think that petry to play at his best would need a stay at home dman next to him